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Subject: Re: about new list!
From: Dan Liston <dliston @ netscape . com>
Organization: iPlanet E-Commerce Solutions, A Sun Netscape Alliance
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:22:34 -0500
To: kiran @ indiainfoline . com
Cc: majordomo-users @ greatcircle . com
References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005310012350.898-100000@server.indiainfoline.com>

--
Majordomo only scans the top 10 lines for administrivia if messages are
sent to the list posting address instead of the majordomo address.

When confirming a subscription request, majordomo is only expecting to
see the actual "auth" line in the message body.  Not the entire message
majordomo sent to the potential subscriber.

Dan Liston

kiran@indiainfoline.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Dan,
> 
>         I shall incorporate the changes and get back to u? But One problem
> I did not understand was that if I sent the confirmation mail as i got it
> it returns me a END of Commands in the msg. body. It does not include the
> e-mail add into the list.If I sent the same mail back to
> majordomo@mydomain.com after deleating all the text other than the line
> containing the authentication passwd, it accepts me into the list.
> 
> I am not able to understand why? Is'nt majordomo supposed to scan the msg
> body ignoring all oher text other than the usual commands?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Rgds
> Kiran
> 
> On Tue, 30 May 2000, Dan Liston wrote:
> 
> > Kiran wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Dan,
> > >
> > >     Thanks for the help earlier. The list is now working. But there are a
> > > few problems associated with it
> >
> > Your welcome.
> > >
> > > 1. When I send a subscription to majordomo@mydomain.com it sends me back two
> > > mails - one asking for     confirmation for subscription the other giving
> > > Majordomo results with the following contents along with the help file. This
> > > seems as a problem with html...Any Ideas
> >
> > Returning the two messages for an open+confirm subscribe_policy in your list
> > is correct.  Answers to your other questions below...
> > >
> > >  --
> > >
> > > >>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > > **** Command 'this' not recognized.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0117_01BFCA59.FF9DE060
> > > **** Command '------=_nextpart_000_0117_01bfca59.ff9de060' not recognized.
> > > >>>> Content-Type: text/plain;
> > > **** Command 'content-type:' not recognized.
> > > >>>> charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > **** Command 'charset="iso-8859-1"' not recognized.
> > > >>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> > > **** Command 'content-transfer-encoding:' not recognized.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> subscribe infra
> > > **** Your request to editor@indiainfoline.com:
> > > ****
> > > **** subscribe infra kiran@indiainfoline.com
> > > ****
> > > **** must be authenticated.  To accomplish this, another request must be
> > > **** sent in with an authorization key, which has been sent to:
> > > **** kiran@indiainfoline.com
> > > ****
> > > **** If the message is not received, there is generally a problem with
> > > **** the address.  Before reporting this as a problem, please note the
> > > **** following:
> > > ****
> > > **** You only need to give an address to the subscribe command if you want
> > > **** to receive list mail at a different address from where you sent the
> > > **** command.  Otherwise you can simply omit it.
> > > ****
> > > **** If you do give an address to the subscribe command, it must be a legal
> > > **** address.  It should not consist solely of your name.  The address must
> > > **** point to a machine that is reachable from the list server.
> > > ****
> > > **** If you have any questions about the policy of the list owner, please
> > > **** contact "infra-approval@indiainfoline.com".
> > > ****
> > > **** Thanks!
> > > ****
> > > **** editor@indiainfoline.com
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0117_01BFCA59.FF9DE060
> > > **** Command '------=_nextpart_000_0117_01bfca59.ff9de060' not recognized.
> > > >>>> Content-Type: text/html;
> > > **** Command 'content-type:' not recognized.
> > > >>>> charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > **** Command 'charset="iso-8859-1"' not recognized.
> > > >>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> > > **** Command 'content-transfer-encoding:' not recognized.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > > **** Command '<!doctype' not recognized.
> > > >>>> <HTML><HEAD>
> > > **** Command '<html><head>' not recognized.
> > > >>>> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" =
> > > **** Command '<meta' not recognized.
> > > >>>> http-equiv=3DContent-Type>
> > > **** Command 'http-equiv=3dcontent-type>' not recognized.
> > > >>>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3DGENERATOR>
> > > **** Command '<meta' not recognized.
> > > >>>> <STYLE></STYLE>
> > > **** Command '<style></style>' not recognized.
> > > >>>> </HEAD>
> > > **** Command '</head>' not recognized.
> > > >>>> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> > > **** Command '<body' not recognized.
> > > >>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>subscribe =
> > > **** Command '<div><font' not recognized.
> > > >>>> infra</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> > > **** Command 'infra</font></div></body></html>' not recognized.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0117_01BFCA59.FF9DE060--
> > > **** Command '------=_nextpart_000_0117_01bfca59.ff9de060--' not recognized.
> > > >>>>
> > > **** Help for editor@indiainfoline.com:
> > >
> > > 2. When I send a mail to list-request@mydomain.com, the same procedure
> > > follows the 2nd mail gives the above junk?
> >
> > Your list-request address basically forwards to majordomo.  That is why
> > you get the same results as writing directly to majordomo.  The problem
> > lies in your email client sending the request in html or as a mime
> > attachment instead of inline plain text.
> >
> > Think of it this way.  If you write a paper letter to someone, you write
> > it in the language they will understand, without backgrounds, colors, or
> > fancy fonts that can confuse the reader.  Majordomo needs to be treated
> > the same way electronically.  (plain text messages)
> >
> > [Optionally, you could add a pre-processor to the list to de-mime the
> > messages.  There are other experts here that can help you with that.]
> >
> > > 3. How can I edit the help file? where is this situated?
> >
> > The help file is built into majordomo itself, in a file called majordomo,
> > and starts near line # 1367.  Be sure to use a non-Microsoft text editor
> > when making modifications to this file.  (unless you like living on the
> > edge)
> >
> > > 4. How can I change the headers to include customised msgs?
> >
> > In your listname.config file there is a setting called message_headers.
> > You can do something like this;
> > message_headers << END
> > X-Mailing-List: $LIST
> > X-Loop: $LIST\@mydomain.com
> > X-Unsubscribe-Address: $LIST-unsubscribe\@mydomain.com
> > X-Unsubscribe-URL: http://www.mydomain.com/unsubscribe-$LIST
> > END
> > Note: The $LIST token is expanded to your actual listname for you.
> > These lines are not displayed in the message body.  You must have
> > full header viewing enabled to see them.
> >
> > If you want a message body header (fronter in majordomo terminology),
> > use the message_fronter setting the same as you would a message_footer.
> > message_fronter << END
> > -
> > ---
> > This message is being sent to you as a subscriber of $LIST.
> > If you would like to be removed from future mailings, please
> > visit http://www.mydomain.com/unsubscribe-$LIST and
> > enter the email address you received this message at.
> > ---
> > -
> > END
> > Note:  The single dash preserves a blank line at the top and bottom
> > of the fronter.  The multi-dash line tells majordomo not to process
> > any of the fronter as possible administrivia.  Then your fronter
> > for whatever purposes you like, followed by dashes (for balance
> > in the eye of your readers), and the preserved blank line before
> > the text of the actual message begins.
> >
> > Dan Liston
> >
> > PS.  Be willing to do LOTS of experimenting to get it right.
> > >
> > > Would apppreciate if u could reply at the earliest?
> > > And thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Kiran
> >


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