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Subject: Re: question about Majordomo
From: "Stephen Ronan" <sronan @ ctcnet . org>
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 11:54:18 -0500
To: "Dan Liston" <dliston @ netscape . com>
Cc: "Majordomo Users" <majordomo-users @ GreatCircle . COM>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0010251646430.13845-100000@obelix.umh.es> <39F755AC.751F935E@netscape.com> <39F7D4B7.73EFBF91@netzero.net> <39F8F2C4.2D96E2A@netscape.com> <083901c0412e$67c4b6a0$5001a8c0@SRPAVILION> <39FBA3EA.A36811F0@netscape.com>

Dan,

These aren't theoreticals except for the insignificant factor that I've
changed the domain part of the addresses, because I don't want to point to
possible mail server problems at another organization or help the harvesting
of addresses from these archives for spam.

The error message that I receive as list manager and that the sender of the
message receives is of this nature:
"RE: Warning: a85226440@xyz.org - User unknown!"

I can't remove such an address because there is no such address subscribed!

The a85226440 part of the address doesn't originate from the list of
subscribers but _is_ found in the etc/mail aliases file for the list name.
So, why do I receive error message like that whenever a message is sent to
the list. I have been communicating with the folks at xyz.org but they can
come up with any reason how these error messages are being generated.

   -Steve



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Liston" <dliston@netscape.com>
To: "Stephen Ronan" <sronan@ctcnet.org>
Cc: "Majordomo Users" <majordomo-users@GreatCircle.COM>
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: question about Majordomo


> I don't understand your question.  Maybe due to the vagueness of
theoreticals
> rather than specifics.  It, they, that, the, first, second.  What does it
all
> mean?
>
> If you get a bounce about an address being "User Unknown" remove that
address
> from your list.  Simple.
>
> Dan Liston
>
> Stephen Ronan wrote:
> >
> > Whenever, a message is sent to one of our lists that has some
subscribers at
> > one particular organization (let's call it xyz.org), I receive for each
> > subscriber a bounce mail error message with a subject line like this:
> > "RE: Warning: a85226440@xyz.org - User unknown!"
> > where the number at the start of the address corresponds to the number
in
> > the aliases file for the list name. As it happens they use our list name
for
> > the first part of their subscription address in most cases as in
> > listname@xyz.org. But I don't think that's the problem, because I think
even
> > other subscribed addresses create the same problem.
> > I notice in the header of a message that I myself receive from the list
that
> > there are two Received.... for lines and the second is to the number
that is
> > appearing in the error messages, e.g. below it says "for a85226440".
> >
> > From owner-ctcm@ctcnetx.org Mon Oct 23 23:16:52 2000
> >  Received: from ctcnet.org (ctcnet.org [209.95.106.127]) by
shell1.zz.net
> > (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA10838 for <jjj@zz.net>;
> > Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:16:52 -0400 (EDT)
> > Received: (from ctcnet@localhost)
> >        by ctcnetx.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13782
> >        for a85226440; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:13:32 -0700 (PDT)
> >  From: "John Doe" <jdoe@z.com>
> >
> > So I'm wondering whether it may be that at that site's ISP the email
server
> > is trying to deal with the second Received... for part as if it refers
to a
> > real address. Has anyone encountered this problem or able to suggest a
> > diagnosis/solution?
> >
> >           - Steve Ronan
>




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