Re: Bounces

[Dan Liston <dliston @ netscape . com>]

Mike Winnett wrote:
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Liston <dliston@netscape.com>
> To: Mike Winnett <mwinnett@satchmo.win-uk.net>
> Date: 07 December 2000 09:37
> Subject: Re: Bounces
> 
> >Mike Winnett wrote:
> >>
> >> I read in the faq how there's a procedure to set up a bounce list
> that
> >> deals with bounces.   Is this difficult to set up?    the sysop has
> set
> >> up the lists with bo bounce procedure, so now that I've added the
> >> subscriber list, I get 300 bounce messages a day, and I really can't
> >> cope with them all.
> >>
> >> I don't have access to the unix system myself so I can't set the
> bounce
> >> system up myself, but I guess it ought to be feasible for the sysop??
> >>
> >> regards]
> >>
> >>  and thanks for your earlier advice which proved very useful
> >>
> >> Mike Winnett
> >
> >The tool provided for managing bounces really does nothing more than
> >combine two lines of majordomo commands into one.  You can accomplish
> >the same thing with;
> >
> >approve password unsubscribe listname user@address
> >approve password subscribe bounces user@address (today's date for
> tracking)
> 
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> 
> I don't have a login to the unix server so I can't set uup a "bounce"
> list myself, though maybe I could get the sysop to do it.   From what
> you're saying I wold still need to manually send messages though which
> is what I'd like to avoid.   If I'm getting 300 bounces a day I won't be
> able to deal with them manually

You can unsubscribe bouncing addresses without adding them to a bounces
list too.  As for 300 bounces a day, on a busy list that gets 20 messages
per day, that would only be 15 addresses bouncing, but repeated 20 times.

> 
> >
> >There are commercial tools available for automating the handling of
> >bounced emails.  One of them is called smartbounce and has a "lite"
> >version available for evaluation.
> >
> >Dan Liston
> 
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> 
> I downloaded smartbounce lite, it looks like it will only deal with a
> single mailing list.   The two lists I run each have digests, so I think
> that counts as four lists.
> though smartbounce could be a help with one list that still leaves three
> other lists, all creating bounces.
> 
> I guess it could be possible to install four versions of smartbounce in
> four different directories and try it that way?
> 
> The version for four lists looks rather expensive to buy, especially as
> these lists are provided free at my own expense.
> 
> The ezmlm that I was using before (and still running at
> arsenal-subscribe@lists.pcug.co.uk) dealt with bounces neatly, sending a
> probe message to test bounced addresses and removing those that failed
> the probe, without any intervention from myself.    Looks like majordomo
> isn't quite as advanced.

MJ2 has quite nice autobounce features, and there are also a couple 
freeware tools called autobounce, but I have never been able to get 
them to do what I was expecting of them either.

Dan Liston