From: Ralf Semroch <semroch@designofsites.de>
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:07:22 +0100
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554 Too many hops 18 (17 max): from <semroch@designofsites.de> via
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Yes, I have the same problem, or at least it looks the same to my untrained
eye. I have a workaround but no fix. I would really like to have a fix
for it if anyone knows of one.
First of all, I'm making an assumption based on what I'm seeing. If this
is wrong, then ignore everything else I say here :-). I'm assuming that
you have md installed on a particular server (or you use md someone else
has installed on their server) but you have an alias set up so that your
subscribers can use the listname dreamweaver@dreamweaver-mailingliste.de.
In other words, majordomo isn't at dreamweaver-mailingliste.de.
Is this correct?
A friend has md set up for me at balaca.com. But I have a procmail alias
set up so they can email immune@immuneweb.org and have it forward to
immune@balaca.com. I've tried this with immune, my moderated list, and
other lists which are not moderated.
With an unmoderated list, I get the too many hops problem. The email that
comes back to me at immuneweb.org is an error message. I never see the
actual post. The post gets processed and sent to other subscribers on the
list. They end up with two copies. The first is just fine. The second is
fine except that the footer I have attached to the bottom of every message
is duplicated. Digest readers get a digest with every post that appeared
in the non-digest readers mailboxes. This includes duplicates and the
extra footers.
I have no found any way to fix this problem with an unmoderated list. My
subscribers must post to listname@balaca.com.
With a moderated list, things get a bit weirder. Best.com adds a header
called X-Rcpt-To: to any email sent to a domain name hosted at best.com.
It's actually extremely useful for sorting and for telling where the email
was sent to if the sender used bcc. I don't know if the existance of this
header is helping me by telling me more of what is going on or if it is
part of the cause of my problems.
When a message comes in for moderator approval, it has the header:
X-Rcpt-To: immune@immuneweb.org
When I send the message to md for approval, I have to take care to remove
that header. If I remove it, everything works fine and I get a single
perfect post in every mailbox. If I fail to remove it, every mailbox but
mine gets a single post. My mailbox at immuneweb.org gets another
moderation request. The text of the post is the same but the headers are
duplicated and there is a footer at the bottom (meaning the message already
went through the list).
I don't know if this is helpful to you or not but maybe someone else can
give a better explanation that will solve both our problems.
Good luck,
Cyndi
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