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Subject: Re: setup help
From: Dan Liston <dliston @ netscape . com>
Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:07:21 -0600
To: Majordomo Users <majordomo-users @ greatcircle . com>


I would like to offer some advice on the suggestions posted below.

One, it should be mentioned that version 1.94.4 is more than 8 years
old and has y2k bugs associated with archives and digests.  You should
really get 1.94.5, and if archiving, get the unofficial patch from ccsf
to fix a y2k problem in archive2.pl

Two, aliases are "usually" located in /etc unless you are running a
non RPM installed version of sendmail 8.11.x.  The recommended 
location of /etc/mail can easily be set by modifying sendmail.cf.

Three, the only arguments to resend should be the "-l listname" and
the delivery address(es).  Quoting from the resend file, which also
existed in the 1.94.4 resend file;

#  Most of these are defined via the list config file, so in general,
#  it's a really bad idea to hardcode them in the alias definition.
#  In a future version of majordomo, these will likely all be removed.
#
#  Here's a description of them, just to be documentive.  Note that the
#  only REQUIRED option is -l.  Even that will probably go away in the future.
#
#       -l <list-name>          REQUIRED: specify list name
#       -h <host-name>          specify host name
#       -f <from-addr>          specify "sender" (default <list-name>-request)
#       -M <max-msg-length>     specify max message length to forward
#       -p <precedence>         add "Precedence: <precedence>" header
#       -r <reply-to>           add "Reply-To: <reply-to>" header
#       -I <file-list>          Bounce messages from users not listed in file
#                               in colon-separated <file-list>
#       -a <passwd>             approval password
#       -A                      moderate list (require "Approved:" for posting)
#       -R                      delete "Received:" lines
#       -s                      enable "administrivia" checks
#       -d                      debug; say it, but don't do it
#       -C                      alternate config file

I recommend "against" the use of an @filename argument unless that @filename
only contains "-l listname listname-outgoing,nobody".  Everything else can
be configured remotely via the config file which supercedes settings in the
aliases anyway.

Four, I do not see 2-digit years getting anyone in trouble for quite a few
decades again, but we might as well set a good example for our grandchildren
and use 4-digit years anyway.  The alias for archiving uses a -m argument 
which only inludes a 2-digit year in the monthly archive name.  A -M will
change that to use 4-digit years in the filename.

Dan Liston

KompuKit wrote:
> 
> KompuKit wrote:
> >
> > I've got Majordomo 1.94.4-8.i386.rpm installed on Mandrake 7.2
> > along with Sendmail 8.9.3
> >
> > I created a list called : mandrakeusers
> > I use webmin to manage it...
> >
> > I just got the following error back when testing it...
> > how do I fix this?
> 
> Check to see if your aliases file (usually located in /etc/mail) is
> setup.  It
> should have something like:
> 
>  owner-mandrakeusers: kompukit@naisp.net,nobody
> mandrakeusers:
>   "|/path/to/wrapper resend
>    @/path/to/lists/lists/mandrakeusers.resend"
> mandrakeusers-approval: owner-mandrakeusers
> mandrakeusers-itdo:
> :include:/path/to/lists/lists/mandrakeusers,mandrakeusers-archive
> owner-mandrakeusers-itdo:
> owner-mandrakeusers
> mandrakeusers-request:
>    "/path/to/wrapper request-answer mandrakeusers"
> owner-mandrakeusers-request: owner-mandrakeusers
> mandrakeusers-archive: "|/path/to/wrapper archive -f
> /path/to/lists/archives/mandrakeusers.archive/
> mandrakeusers -m -a"
> 
> Make sure that paths are correct and that you run newaliases
> (successfully)
> after you've modified the aliases file.
> 
> In my experience, majordomo and sendmail offer some of the biggest
> challenges to
> configurations (compared to things like apache, postgres, mhonarc, 1/2 a
> million
> public-domain cgi-perl scripts.  It takes a bit of time, but majordomo
> does
> work, and very well.
> 
> --
> Max Pyziur                                     BRAMA - Gateway Ukraine
> pyz@brama.com                                  http://www.brama.com/
> 
> > The original message was received at Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:27:24 -0500
> > from 5812-001-229.024.popsite.net [66.19.1.229]
> >
> >    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> > <mandrakeusers@kompukit.dyndns.org>
> >
> >    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> > ... while talking to kompukit.dyndns.org.:
> > >>> RCPT To:<mandrakeusers@kompukit.dyndns.org>
> > <<< 550 <mandrakeusers@kompukit.dyndns.org>... User unknown
> > 550 <mandrakeusers@kompukit.dyndns.org>... User unknown
> >
> >    ----- Original message follows -----
> >
> > Return-Path: <kompukit@naisp.net>
> > Received: from naisp.net (5812-001-229.024.popsite.net [66.19.1.229])
> >         by mail.naisp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05118
> >         for <mandrakeusers@kompukit.dyndns.org>; Sat, 10 Feb 2001
> > 22:27:24 -0500
> > Sender: kit
> > Message-ID: <3A855D6E.FF40628B@naisp.net>
> > Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:25:34 -0500
> > From: KompuKit <kompukit@naisp.net>
> > Organization: KompuKit
> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-21mdk i586)
> > X-Accept-Language: en
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > To: MandrakeUsers <mandrakeusers@kompukit.dyndns.org>
> > Subject: test
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > test


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