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Subject: Re: Message duplication problem
From: Daniel Liston <dliston @ netscape . com>
Organization: iPlanet eCommerce Solutions, A Sun|Netscape Alliance
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 20:24:48 -0500
To: Frank Bax <fbax @ sympatico . ca>
Cc: Majordomo-users @ GreatCircle . COM, Todd Lyons <todd @ mrball . net>
References: <3.0.6.32.20010703084854.02475c00@pop6.sympatico.ca> <3.0.6.32.20010630110216.009e8c50@pop6.sympatico.ca> <3B305E7E.DBB6D8F2@netscape.com> <3B290573.5010508@netidea.com> <3.0.6.32.20010619081806.018797a0@pop6.sympatico.ca> <3.0.6.32.20010620101509.021be430@pop6.sympatico.ca> <3.0.6.32.20010630110216.009e8c50@pop6.sympatico.ca> <20010702223942.F5009@mrball.net> <3.0.6.32.20010703084854.02475c00@pop6.sympatico.ca> <3.0.6.32.20010703124330.0249e140@pop6.sympatico.ca>


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Not sure if this is related to a duplication problem as the subject suggests,
but majordomo does not recognize upper case letters in list names.  At least
the filenames for the list must be lower-cased, as majordomo will tr them to
lower case during processing.  Also note that majordomo does not accept the
underscore character as a valid listname character.  This does not look like
it affects you (right now), but it is something to keep in mind.

To make sure you are not getting auto-replies back to the list from somebody
being on vacation or otherwise out of the office, you could make use of the
message_headers and taboo_headers settings in your listname.config file. Here
is what I do...

message_headers     <<  END
X-Mailing-List: <listname>
END

taboo_headers       <<  END
/X-Mailing-List: <listname>/
END

where <listname> is replaced with the actual name of your list.
You could also do this with message_footers and taboo_body settings, but
these will destroy any MIME content if you allow it in your lists.  Some
auto-reply-bots may not include the original headers in the reply, which
only leaves you the footers/body option.  If this is the case, you will 
want to look at the strip-HTML patch or demime plugin to majordomo.

Dan Liston

Frank Bax wrote:
> 
> At 08:28 AM 7/3/01 -0700, Todd Lyons wrote:
> >#begin  Frank Bax quotation:
> >>B) The mailing list affected by auto-reply was a closed list.  Only Mike's
> >>email address is in the contacts.post file.  How can auto-reply get
> >>distributed?
> >
> >I'd be willing to bet that someone is sending email back to your
> >list-outgoing address instead of your list address.  OR, the email is
> >coming back to list-owner and you get a copy of it (which is normal) and
> >nobody else on the list does.  OR, the email is coming back to the list
> >and you get a copy bounced to you since you're the list-owner, but
> >nobody else on the list does.
> >
> >The problem appears if one of the last two situtations is what's
> >happening and everybody _IS_ getting a copy of the message.  Then I
> >would look to make sure that you are running through resend (or else the
> >features of majordomo don't get used).  There's lots of examples in the
> >archives of Dan answering that very question.  So I suppose the first
> >thing to do (if you have not done it already) is to post your aliases
> >and to post whether you have a virtuser entry for the list-outgoing
> >address that refuses mail.
> 
> I did do a LOT of reading before I started this list, and thought I had it
> all covered.  Config items you requested are listed below.  As I look at
> the headers included in my original post, am I correct in saying it looks
> like the auto-reply actually looks like a forged copy of original?  Except
> for the extra 'Received:' lines, it's identical to original.  Perhaps
> that's how it got through?
> 
> In virtusertable:
> 
> majordomo@cfyc.org              cfyc_majordomo
> majordomo-owner@cfyc.org        fbax@execulink.com
> Contacts@cfyc.org               Contacts
> Contacts-Request@cfyc.org       Contacts-Request
> Contacts-Approval@cfyc.org      cfyc06
> Contacts-OutGoing@cfyc.org      error:nouser User unknown
> Contacts-owner@cfyc.org         cfyc06
> owner-Contacts@cfyc.org         cfyc06
> 
> In majordomo.aliases:
> #       CFYC    Christ For Your City
> cfyc_majordomo:         "|/home/majordomo/runtime/wrapper majordomo -C
> /home/majordomo/runtime/cfyc.cf"
> Contacts:   "|/home/majordomo/runtime/wrapper resend -l contacts -C
> /home/majordomo/runtime/cfyc.cf Contacts-OutGoing,nobody"
> Contacts-OutGoing: :include:/home/majordomo/runtime/cfyc/contacts
> Contacts-Request: "|/home/majordomo/runtime/wrapper majordomo -l contacts
> -C /home/majordomo/runtime/cfyc.cf"
> 
> Thanks, Frank



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