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Subject: Re: Resources to help convince broken clients to behave
From: Daniel Liston <dliston @ netscape . com>
Organization: Netscape Communications Corp.
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 08:30:50 -0600
To: d . kindred @ telesciences . com
Cc: majordomo-users @ GreatCircle . COM
References: <15329.58606.537746.624085@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

David,

You really have not asked a specific "majordomo" question.  Asking how to
fix a misbehaving Outlook could take years to answer, and without telling
us exactly "when" you think is an inappropriate time for a message that
originates from outlook to be bounced to the list owner, how can we on this
list help you?  First a problem must be defined, then a solution can be
formulated.  Most of us already know that outlook is broken in unfixable
ways.  Which bug are you trying to "work around"?  MIME encoded rich text
format?  This can be solved by educating the users on how to send plain
text messages, or applying a demime tool to your list.  Sender showing up
in headers or "on behalf of"?  Majordomo can be edited so this does not
appear in the viewable headers of outlook clients, and list.config files
can be modified so distributed messages are more outlook friendly, but may
break other mail clients or introduce mail loops and more bounces.

Please tell us what you are looking for, so we can help you find it.

Dan Liston

"David L Kindred (Dave)" wrote:
> 
> I've been using MajorDomo for internal mailing lists for many years with
> few problems.  But of late two changes have occurred that are causing me
> some grief:
> 
> 1) I decided to finally start using "resend" to benefit from some of its
>    features;
> 
> 2) Company policy and practice has everyone using Microsoft Outlook as
>    their primary (or only) MUA.
> 
> While searching various message archives and the 'net in general I have
> found lots of complaints about the different ways that Outlook
> misbehaves (mostly sending things to the list owner at inappropriate
> times), but no concise discussion of what, if anything, can be done to
> fix that.
> 
> Perhaps that's because there isn't anything that can be done.
> 
> But I don't think taking no for an answer is good enough.  If there
> aren't any "magic incantations" to convince Outlook to behave properly,
> perhaps there are changes that can be made to the way resend performs.
> Or perhaps I need use procmail or similar to re-process mail sent to
> list owners and do the right thing with it.
> 
> Since I doubt I'm the only one in this position, have my searches been
> mis-directed and there is a good resource for getting Outlook to behave?
> Or are there other measures I can take to get the desired result?
> 
> --
> David L. Kindred                       <mailto:d.kindred@telesciences.com>
> Unix Systems & Network Administrator   Telesciences, Inc.
> Phone: +1 856 642 4184                 2000 Midlantic Drive, Suite 410
> Fax: +1 856 866 0185                   Mount Laurel, NJ 08054 USA



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