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Subject: Re: sendmail 8.11.x
From: Frank Bax <fbax @ sympatico . ca>
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 12:42:41 -0500
To: "Dr. Tim" <timothy @ xrx-inc . com>
Cc: majordomo-users @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: <200203040202.g24221B74074@xrx-inc.com>

This might do it (thanks to Jeff Wasilko, msg from archive below):
         http://www.sendmail.org/m4/cf-readme.txt
         define(`SMTP_MAILER_MAXMSGS',`30')

I never had a problem with AOL, but I did with YAHOO (I was getting 'too 
many recipients' messages).  This change appears to have solved my problem 
with YAHOO.

ymmv.

Frank


At 08:02 PM 03/03/02 -0600, Dr. Tim wrote:
>I have run into real problems with a0l lately.
>they recieve our mailings just find and the sendmail log says
>that they HAVE been indeed received by aol.  But aol then
>doesn't deliver the mail to the 100 people in the envelop addressing!
>
>My list people are screaming and aol says nothing to them all get
>canned responses.
>
>You have discussed before the use of set r=10 etc.. r=30
>in the mailer definitions but
>a.) I can't find that anywhere.
>and
>b.) the MaxREcipientsPerMessage is for my sendmail to receive
>from people so I
>can not find how to limit my emailing out with 8.11.1 and
>sendmail.org faq has no answers as well all my searches.
>
>
>If you know how to configure sendmail 8,11.1 I would appreciate the help
>
>YES I KNOW 8.12 is the way to go but my last upgrade cost me
>12hours work and this company will go nuts if I take down their
>email for a full day.
>
>Or if you know a great tutorial at upgrading from 8.11.1 to 8.12
>so I don't shoot myself in the foot I would love to hear about it!
>
>TIm


At 09:11 PM 22/02/02 +0000, Jeff Wasilko wrote:
>On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 01:19:16PM -0500, Frank Bax wrote:
> > Jeff:
> >
> > Now I'm confused.  In our Febrary mailing to about 4000 email addresses,
> > many (I didn't count them) came back from yahoo saying 'too many
> > recipients'.  This was the *first* I've seen this message.  I just did a
> > count by domain and we have 441 addresses at 'aol.com' and they are getting
> > through?  How is this possible?  We continue to get unsubscribe requests
> > from ail, so they must be delivered.  Domains with over 100 email addresses
> > include hotmail.com, aol.com, sympatico.ca, yahoo.com, juno,com and
> > home.com; and only yahoo has a problem at the moment.
>
> From what I've heard, if you trip the spam filters at AOL, your
>mail will be accepted and silently discarded, so you don't know
>if you have a problem. Makes it kinda hard to deal with....
>
> > Where does the r=50 or r=30 go in older sendmail configs?  What's the
> > format in mc file?  I use OpenBSD 2.9; I'm in the middle of planning an
> > upgrade to 3.0 which includes sendmail 8.12.1; I'd have to go source for
> > 8.12.2; I'm still thinking about that one (or waiting until summer release
> > of 3.1).
>
>Sendmail 8.12 is much, much faster than 8.11 at doing large
>number of deliveries, so if performance is important, I'd suggest
>going to 8.12 now.
>
>For 8.10 and later, I think you could do something like:
>
>define(`SMTP_MAILER_MAXMSGS',`30')
>
>but I haven't tested it.
>
>-j




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