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Subject: Re: date on messages
From: Daniel Liston <dliston @ sonny . org>
Organization: Sun Microsystems - iPlanet eCommerce Solutions
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:24:25 -0500
To: winerat @ villagecorner . com
Cc: Majordomo-users @ greatcircle . com
References: <200204091941530590.01D1519F@mailout.provide.net>


When you send and approved message to majordomo, all lines up to and
including the approved: header are removed.  If Eudora is getting it's
date information from anywhere other than the "Date:" line, you may have
to leave more header information in your messages.  Your other option is
to change the format of the "Date:" information so that Eudora can read 
or understand it.

This is the format for the Date: line as I see them in Communicator;

Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 19:41:53 -0400

which is quite a bit different from what your "expert" told you to
provide.  This is also what I see as the format of the date info
on the free webmail sites, as long as I choose to display FULL 
header information.  Your sample header information does not
include "time and timezone and/or offset from GMT" information 
which should also be in a Date: header.

This is the same line from Communicator (different message) 
as saved in the Sent folder;

Date: 29 Apr 2001 13:01:30 -0500

What I see from this and from services I subscribe to for email,
the "Day of week" identifier is optional, the date itself is in
day month year (2-digit 3-letter 4-digit) format and is required,
the time is also required in a 24 hour format of HH:MM:SS.  The
(time zone) or -nn00 offset from GMT are also optional.

Dan Liston


"Sally K. Scheer" wrote:
> 
> I'm an END-user as opposed to a system administrator who sets up the lists
> and maintains majordomo. After much experimentation and consulting with
> some unspecified "expert", the person who was supposed to know how to set
> these things up gave me this "header" format to post messages to my closed
> list:
> 
> Approved: xxxxxxxx
> To: list-name@xxxxx.com
> From: "list owner"<winerat@xxxx.com>
> Subject: 2/15/2002
> Date: Friday, February 15, 2002
> 
> Now a couple of my subscribers tell me the messages come through to them
> with NO DATE and therefore get sorted to the bottom of their messages and
> usually misssed.
> I send the same messages to myself and this is the header I see on my
> copies:
> 
> Return-Path: <winerat@xxxx.com>
> Received: from phoebe.hosting4u.net ([209.15.2.13]) by  ; Tue, 09 Apr 2002
> 15:50:45 -0500
> Received: (qmail 6116 invoked by alias); 9 Apr 2002 20:50:29 -0000
> Delivered-To: cancer-villag0-list-name-list@phoebe.hosting4u.net
> Received: (qmail 6112 invoked by alias); 9 Apr 2002 20:50:29 -0000
> Message-ID: <20020409205029.6111.qmail@phoebe.hosting4u.net>
> To: <list-name@xxxx.com>
> From: "list owner" <winerat@xxxx.com>
> Subject: [List Name for Subject] 4/09/2002
> Date: Tuesday, April 9, 2002
> Sender: list-name@xxxx.com
> Precedence: bulk
> Reply-To: winerat@xxxx.com
> X-Rcpt-To: <winerat@xxxx.com>
> X-DPOP: DPOP Version 2.4a
> X-UIDL: 1018385694.000
> Status: U
> 
> I believe the ones who have mentioned this problem use Eudora and are at a
> local university (our main customers!!)
> 
> Any idea what's wrong in the header I use?
> 
> Sally K. Scheer mailto:winerat@villagecorner.com



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