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Subject: Re: Spammers Not Welcome.
From: Todd Lyons <todd @ mrball . net>
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 14:00:44 -0700
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In-reply-to: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0204141346070.10207-100000@frank.ourldsfamily.com>; from karlp@ourldsfamily.com on Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 01:47:00PM -0600
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karlp@ourldsfamily.com wanted us to know:

>No, I don't have an open relay host. If you want to check it out, it's my
>own host and my own domain. NMAP doesn't even return anything on it, if
>that helps.

Along a different line, many sites use another method of spam
prevention.  If the IP address of your mail server does not reverse 
resolve, they will bounce your mail.  What is the external IP address of
your mail server?

As an example, I have a domain mrball.net.  Mail originates from my mail
server and it says "somebody@mrball.net".  The receiving mail server
first checks to see if mrball.net is a valid domain by asking a domain
name server.   In my case, the answer will be:
  [todd@todd ~/.netscape]$ host mrball.net 4.2.2.1
  Using domain server 4.2.2.1:
  mrball.net has address 24.205.75.223
  mrball.net mail is handled (pri=10) by mrball.net
  mrball.net mail is handled (pri=20) by northeast-loans.com
If it gets an answer back, then (a new thing) the second check is to do
the reverse IP.  In my case:
  [todd@todd ~/.netscape]$ host 24.205.75.223 4.2.2.1
  Using domain server 4.2.2.1:
  223.75.205.24.IN-ADDR.ARPA domain name pointer 24-205-75-223.glen-dyn.charterpipeline.net

Since it reverse resolves to something, it decides to accept the mail.
Notice that it doesn't resolve to the same name as the original name.
In most cases that doesn't matter.  If it _did_ matter, then virtual
hosting would not be possible as one mail server can host multiple
domains, but many people do not know how to make a nameserver reverse
resolve more than one name for a single IP (though it's pretty damn
simple :)

Also, before you ask, I used the main gte nameserver (4.2.2.1) in order
to use a neutral nameserver (ie not mine and not my ISP's).

Check to see those test results with your domain name and IP addresses.
-- 
Blue skies...		Todd
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