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Subject: Re: From field and Wrapper
From: "David Corlette" <corlette @ huarp . harvard . edu>
Organization: Harvard University
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 14:48:13 -0400
To: "Bob Cohen" <bcohen @ bpecreative . com>
Cc: majordomo-users @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: <003301c23e40$8e825390$6401a8c0@bob>
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> How can I tell more concretely if this is happening.  I looked at all my
> bounced/returned/failure messages using the search feature in my mail
> client in which I grabbed names from the top of the list and then ones
> from the bottom.  For the most part the bounces seem more or less equal,
> but not always.  For CPUs we're running two 1gig processors.  Bandwith
> is 1/3 a T1, approx 500k.

Given the above, I think it's pretty unlikely that it's a sendmail 
restart.  Much larger mailservers have been run on less.

> > 2.   You have duplicate entries in the subscriber file itself, or
> > multiple references to :include: that file in your aliases.  Do a 
> > 'uniq' or a 'sort -u' on the subscriber file.  Do a 'uniq' on the 
> > /etc/aliases file.
> 
> The subscriber file was my first stop on the troubleshooting express.  I
> then ran the uniq as you suggested.  That said there were no duplicates
> in the subscriber list or the aliases file.

You might need to look by hand, or follow aliases through.  For 
instance, let's say you have a list "localusers", which has you in 
it.  Then you create a list "goodstuff" and subscribe yourself, then 
subscribe the list "localusers" as well.  You'll get two copies.

> > test-outgoing:	
> > :include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/test,test-archiver,test-digestify
> 
> I notice your :include statement is on the next line.  Mine is on the
> same line.  Does this matter? e.g., 
> 
> applicants-list:        :include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/applicants

I think the wrapping was again caused by the mailer, this should all 
be on one line.

> > I also use a standard alias of "nobody", defined as
> > nobody: /dev/null
> 
> Nobody in my alias file is aliased to root.

Probably not the best idea.

> > and I add Tmajordomo to sendmail.cf or just majordomo to
> > trusted-users in /etc/mail, depending on what version of 
> > sendmail I am running and the actual name/id of the majordomo user.
> 
> I'm not sure which version I'm running.  I've got RedHat 7.2.  The
> server was set up just three or four months ago with, what I was given
> to believe, all the latest and greatest software of that
> moment--including sendmail.  I poked around the documentation and can't
> seem to figure out how to determine the version.

Find your sendmail.cf, probably in /etc/mail.  There's a line in 
there somewhere that says: 

--
# Configuration version number
DZ8.12.1
--

Or something similar.  I've never quite figured out why sendmail 
doesn't have its real version number embedded in the executable, but 
whatever, the number in the .cf is probably accurate.


P.S. Have you looked through your maillogs on sending a message?  
Anything that indicates multiple messages going out to a single 
person?  You can send me snippets of the log if you like for perusal.
                                 Dave C

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