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Subject: Re: Is majordomo still being used in new installations?
From: Daniel Liston <dliston @ sonny . org>
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:33:45 -0500
To: John Christian <John . Christian @ MindShareSystems . com>
Cc: "'majordomo-users @ greatcircle . com'" <majordomo-users @ greatcircle . com>
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Depending on your OS and your MTA, there are also mailman, ezmlm, and
SmartList (as far as free list managers go).  I believe mailman is
designed for use with postfix and and ezmlm for qmail (I could have
this backwards).  SmartList is based on procmail rules, and other than
installing any of them, I can not say I have used anything but our
favorite, majordomo.  Before The January 2000 release of majordomo,
the previous version 1.94.4, had timestamps ranging from 93-97, but
most files had been updated around Aug-Oct 97.  1.94.2 and .3 were of
the Apr 97 vintage, and 1.94 sometime around Oct 96.

Considering 6 years with only 5 bugfix/patch updates and 2-3 years
each between the most recent 2, we have a solid product on our hands.
I would say we will be using majordomo for a long time to come.
Especially if perl savy mail admins have anything to say about it.

Archives, don't know who maintains them, don't want the responsibility
myself.  Since there has only been one announcement since 2000, I can
see what that archive stops.  Aug 2002 is this month!  I would say you
can't get any more current than that.  FAQ, old sendmail, well, if it
is still valid, why change it?  I don't want that responsibility either,
but would be willing if the oportunity presented itself.

There have been a small handful of patches and contributions since
1.94.5 was released, and after some developer discussion some, all,
or something in-between may be rolled out as 1.94.6 in the future.

MajordomoII is still in alpha (maybe beta) development, and there are
a good number of people already running it successfully, but it should
not be confused with majordomo.  It is a complete rewrite from the
ground up.

Dan Liston

John Christian wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Based on what I've found so far, it seems support for Majordomo (and its
> widespread use) may be declining. I'm querying the majordomo-users list to
> hear your opinion of Majordomo's current state and what its future may hold.
> Obviously, folks on this list will likely view majordomo as widely used;
> however, where do you think the rest of the e-mail admin community is
> headed? (For example: I think Mosaic is a cool browser, but I know it's not
> as mainstream as it used to be.)
> 
> My perception is based on the following:
> 
> The current version is 1.94.5, released Jan 18, 2000
> Majordomo-announce archive stops after 2001
> Majordomo-users archive stops after August of 2002
> FAQ info related to sendmail references old sendmail versions as if they
> were current
> And similar imperfect evidence that I could be misinterpreting :-)
> 
> I am not attempting to put down Majordomo from a technical perspective. The
> last time I messed around with list servers (1996-ish) I seem to remember
> ListSERV and Majordomo being the main tools in use. Imagine my recent
> surprise to find that ListSERV has gone commercial and Majordomo hasn't been
> updated in well over three years.
> 
> If you think majordomo may be in decline, what are the other "real players"
> in terms of free list serve software? I know dozens exist, but which ones
> are in widespread use or considered the de-facto standard? If I go to the
> trouble of building a list serve environment, I'd like to increase the
> chances that my replacement will have worked with the tools I choose.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your input,
> 
> -John C.
> 






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