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Subject: Re: Majordomo on Windows
From: "Jack L. Stone" <jacks @ sage-american . com>
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:24:50 -0500
To: "Saffa Kemokai" <gbeima @ sulima . com>,Dan Liston <dliston @ sonny . org>, Stefan <STEFANM @ terra . es>,majordomo-users @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: <200209131225.g8DCP8324501@sulima.sulima.com>

rantstart/
Yes, apology is not necessary, Dan. I really appreciate you contributions
on this list. This fellow merely threw a tantrum just because a good system
was not made easy for his OS of choice and wants to blame it on someone --
not himself. Perhaps if he took time to learn some UNIX, he might
appreciate majordomo better. It wasn't designed with Windoze in mind.

He's also looking a "gift horse in the mouth" when he criticizes volunteer
folks on a FREE list about a FREE system and application. Let him go pay M$
for such an app as majordomo -- he certainly won't get it FREE, nor any
support. Most of all, let him go away with his bad attitude and tantrums.
(yes, I also use Windoze --all versions-- appropriately on the desktop and
have for 14 years. FreeBSD Un*x for servers though!)
/rantstop

At 08:25 AM 9.13.2002 -0400, Saffa Kemokai wrote:
>
>Hey Dan:
>
>You don't have to appoloigse for this. I just read it now. I came out 
>of DOS, and then Windows. Few Years ago, I built my first Internet 
>server in Unix (FreeBSD)with the help of free mailing lists and I am 
>glad I did it in Unix. I work full time on my regular job babysitting 
>NT and and now W2K. Meanwhile my unix box is out there hosting domains 
>for people whose business depends on it. It just works!!
>
>MJ is designed for UNIX, if somebody wants to adapte it to WINS, fine; 
>I have done that with some scripts I like to use at work on NT but I 
>hold myself responsible for that and if someone on the list has prior 
>knowledge, I am not ashamed to use it but do not make it imperative on 
>the list .. there are better times!
>
>Enjoy the weekend..
>
>Saffa
>>
>
>
>> I am sorry you are disappointed.  I am disappointed every time I have
>> to pay taxes or insurance, but I accept the fact that until I die this
>> is just the way it is.  If you are not willing to accept this as your
>> answer, consider this;  Window was conceived for people who did not 
>> have the desire to understand a command line operating system (DOS).
>> 
>> Majordomo was not designed for Microsoft environments.  If this 
>upsets 
>> you, do something about it.  
>> 1) learn unix, sendmail, and perl, then switch away from the dark side
>> or 
>> 2) get it figured out in windows and teach others how you did it.
>> 
>> I did not write majordomo.  I do not own this list.  When I started,
>> I spent weeks, months, and years learning so I could be good enough
>> to help others in the environment I chose to become an expert in. I
>> have no intention of becoming an expert in windows.  I "don't" have
>> to make an option for windows.  I don't want to take one of the few
>> sweet things left in life and have Microsoft turn it sour.
>> 
>> Majordomo is FREE.  If you don't like it, you got what you paid for.
>> 
>> Have a good day.
>> 
>> Dan Liston
>> 
>> Stefan wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hello,
>> > 
>> > i have to say the following about majordomo for windows i think the 
>response
>> > from Dan is not so nice for a person who,s not familiar with unix 
>systems.
>> > You have to make a option for people who use windows and give them 
>some time
>> > to choose and make a transition to linux for instance step by step. 
>If you
>> > really want to be popular (outside the unix experts) majordomo you 
>have to
>> > this. Otherwise the majority of the internet users are not able to 
>use
>> > majordomo. I quitt some time ago to configure majordomo and i,m not 
>the only
>> > one.
>> > 
>> > thanks for your attention
>> > 
>> > Stefan
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Dan Liston" <dliston@sonny.org>
>> > To: <majordomo-users@greatcircle.com>
>> > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:02 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Majordomo on Windows
>> > 
>> > > Majordomo is not a stand-alone program. While there is perl for 
>windows
>> > NT, do you have a standards
>> > > compliant mail transport agent for NT that can read "aliases" 
>files to
>> > trigger majordomo to run?
>> > >
>> > > I do not know of anyone that has gone to the effort for this.  
>Especially
>> > when it is so easy to to
>> > > acquire a FREE operating system that can accomodate majordomo so
>> > efficiently.
>> > >
>> > > Dan Liston
>> > >
>> > > > "Thomas, Stefan" wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Hi @all,
>> > > >
>> > > >     is anyone familiar to installing Majordomo on a Windows NT 
>platform
>> > or does anyone have experience with it?
>> > > >
>> > > > How much effort will it take to get it run.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks a lot
>> > > > Stefan
>> > >
>> > >
>> 
>> 
>
>Saffa Kemokai
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Best regards,
Jack L. Stone,
Administrator

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http://www.sage-american.com
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