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Subject: Re: Lack of faith in majordomo
From: Jeff Lasman <jblists @ nobaloney . net>
Organization: nobaloney.net
Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 21:57:50 -0800
To: Scott <shayes @ officetracker . com>
Cc: majordomo-users @ greatcircle . com
References: <OF612F43F3.A3A8185C-ON85256C7D.006F11E4-85256C7D.006F34F4@udcomm.net> <4.3.2.7.0.20021126201652.020aaf00@mail.officetracker.com>

Scott wrote:

> I'm not the best Majordomo admin, but I have been using it on a Raq for
> about a year now with good results and before that for a couple of years
> under RedHat. The main problem I had with the cobalt Raq was if you used
> the GUI (web interface) to manage the list you are limited. It seems the
> cobalt system keep a database of the normal setting for the majordomo
> configuration files and will overwrite any changes you apply from SSH or
> Telnet. So I never use the Cobalt user interface to manage the list or add
> list.

One of the Cobalt updates did fix this behavior.  It's now possible to
change lists by email using the list config file.

The only thing I haven't been able to do is get rid of the "www" in the
outgoing email address.  But that's easily fixed by using a hostname of
"list" or "lists" for the domain for which you're going to send out
Majordomo lists.

And oh, you can't set up digests through the gui, or archives.

> My big complaint is the speed that you can process a list. It appears you
> speed the list up by using bulkmailer. I haven't had the time to install
> that yet to see if it makes a difference.

List email SHOULD be the slowest thing to run on a general use server
and even more specifically on a webhosting server.  The Cobalt RaQs have
limited processor speed; the RaQ3 has a 300mhz processor, the RaQ4 a
450mhz processor.  And neither are server processors; they're simple AMD
K6 processors.  You really want your email to be slowed down rather than
web access.

The bulkmailer program will speed up huge lists, but it probably won't
make much different on small lists, and you'd better have at least a
half-gig of memory, which is all the RaQ3s and RaQ4s support.

> There is someone working on an package to install MailMan on Cobalt systems
> and should be available on http://pkgmaster.com or one of the other Raq
> sites some day.

I tried a Mailman installation on the Cobalt RaQ, and decided against
it; I'm now trying it on a Plesk PSA server.  And if that doesn't work,
I can always put it on RHL7.3.  Any discussion on Mailman should go to
me offlist; this, afterall, is a Majordomo list.

> If you look at the Cobalt users list mail interface you
> will see it uses MailMan.

It's NOT run on a RaQ.

> I hope this helps, Just my two cents :)

If I had to add my two cents I'd say that I've been installing majordomo
separately on RaQs, for myself, and for others, for years, and that
seems to be the best way to put Majordomo on a RaQ.  While I've never
done it, I'd think you could easily manage it with MajorCool as well.

Jeff
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