To the list I again apologize for my indiscretion (test).
To Dan Liston. I fully accept your apology and I extend a profound apology
for the e-mail I directed at you. It is not my nature to do things like
that. I believe I did it out of being ashamed of being caught in an act when
maybe I should have known better. This apology to you would have come
to-day even if I had not received the below message. I have been awake
numerous times during the night thinking about it and I believe it is easier
to eat crow while it is still warm. I sincerely hope you will take my
apology into consideration.
Kenneth R. Brahmer, thank you for your words in trying to smooth things
over. I hope to participate in the group in my own small way but I will also
stop, look, and listen.
Thank you.
Mike
mike-ann@shaw.ca
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Liston" <dliston@sonny.org>
To: <majordomo-users@greatcircle.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: Daniel Liston - tasting one two three
> Very well stated Kenneth, and point taken, both here and all
> the reminders I received in my personal mailbox that I could
> have been much more polite. For that, I send an apology of
> my own to the list.
>
> No, I do not view this list as my personal microphone, and
> everyone has a right to be heard. I will now humbly stick
> my nose in the corner for a time-out until I can learn to be
> polite, patient, and tolerant again.
>
> Dan Liston
>
> Ann & Mike, I'm sorry I flamed you. I would have taken
> exactly the same recourse as you 6 or 7 years ago. If I
> had to comment, it should have been in private. Please
> don't associate the actions of one person having a bad
> day (me) with the entire list. We really are a friendly
> bunch here. Just check the last several years worth of
> archives to see that this rarely happens. Please forgive
> me.
>
> Kenneth R. Brahmer wrote:
> > Daniel Liston wrote,
> > in response to a one line test message to the list
> > by new members Ann & Mike :
>
> ------------------quote---------------------------------------------------
--
> > --
> > This kind of test is about as rude as walking
> > into the announcers booth at a football or soccer game,
> > grabbing the microphone and saying "I'm new here, I only
> > wanted to make sure this microphone is working. Please
> > forgive me for the announcement.
> > -------------------------end of
> > quote-----------------------------------------------
> > To Ann & Mike and any other new members let me say that Daniel Liston is
the
> > most knowledgeable and helpful majordomo guru you could ever meet. This
list
> > would be immeasurably damaged without his active participation. But
Daniel
> > is human and can err ( e.g. albeit not about majordomo). His reply, as a
> > curt rebuke, is unlike his normally helpful and kind efforts on this
list.
> > Forgive him for a moment of testiness.
> >
> > To Daniel I say. You are to be commended for all your technically
superior
> > and charitable efforts. As much as it irritates the "super competent,"
new
> > people must learn and often by mistake. Your frustration is understood.
> > However!
> > (1): This is a list which caters to message senders attempting to
establish
> > or maintain a communication system...not a football game with listeners
> > whose interest is only the game. I can assure you that some of what I
hear,
> > from announcers in the booth, is much more distracting and irritable.
> > (2): There is no one microphone to grab - unless you consider this forum
to
> > be your personal mouthpiece. Everyone here has a microphone and everyone
is
> > exposed to what everyone else says. Although a message that is intended
to
> > insure their microphone works might seem sophomoric, it was one line
that
> > concisely and apologetically related the facts and could be easily tuned
> > out. If not by sending a message, how does one know if their microphone
is
> > working?
> > (3): Your message only needed to be sent to Ann & Mike to make its point
AND
> > serve to advise them their microphone was working. As a guru your rebuke
> > could have been made privately.
> > (4): I'm sending this to the list because I wish to reach the entire
> > audience to ensure new members don't get discouraged; to remind us all
how
> > easily uninitiated people can stumble yet deserve our patience; and to
> > assure any new members that YOU Daniel Liston are worth listening to
even if
> > you get testy at times.
> >
> > Whistle blows...flag flies...Daniel gets penalized 5 yards for being off
> > side...and the clock starts with the next message. The down is played
over.
> >
> > In My Not So Humble Opinion (IMNSHO) <grin>
> > But then I could be wrong.
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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