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Subject: Re: alias include file problem with MajorCool
From: Daniel Liston <dliston @ sonny . org>
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:34:07 -0600
To: Joe Glass <glassjos @ msu . edu>,Majordomo-users <Majordomo-users @ greatcircle . com>
References: <1045852942.60728.4.camel@glass.cl.msu.edu>
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I do not have an explanation as to why your posts are not getting
through, or how busy the owner/moderator is, but I will try to help
with the permission denied problem.

Sendmail also depends on directory permissions.  Not just the directory
the lists are in, but all the directories in the tree leading to your
lists directory.  In your case, make sure none of the following have
group or world enabled writes.

/, /usr, /usr/local, /usr/local/majordomo, /usr/local/majordomo/lists

I am not a majorcool user, so I do not know it's needs or requirements
either, but if it needs group write permissions on a directory, you
will either need to set sendmails security down even further, or make
a change to majorcool telling the system it runs as the majordomo user.
That way, majorcool and majordomo are the same entity and logically
the same owner, so group permission is not required.

Dan Liston

Joe Glass wrote:
> Hi Dan, I have a question for you as I see you are very active on the
> majordomo-users mailing list.  I am subscribed to the list, as I have
> posted before about two weeks ago, however I've been trying to send the
> following message (see below) but it isn't going through.  I've emailed
> the list admin (majordomo-owner@greatcircle.com) but they haven't gotten
> back to me and it's been over a week since I tried to post the message. 
> I'm assuming they are very busy.  Could you look at my message and see
> if you see any reason the message is being held and not automatically
> posted?  
> 
> Thanks,
> Joe Glass
> ---------------------------------
> 
> Subject: alias include file problem with MajorCool
> From: Joe Glass <joe@glass.cl.msu.edu>
> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com
> Content-Type: text/plain
> Organization: 
> Message-Id: <1045691098.73406.2.camel@glass.cl.msu.edu>
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 
> Date: 19 Feb 2003 16:44:59 -0500
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> X-Evolution-Transport:
> smtp://joe@pilot.msu.edu
> X-Evolution-Account:
> joe@glass.cl.msu.edu
> X-Evolution-Fcc:
> file:///home/joe/evolution/local/Sent
> X-Evolution-Format: text/plain
> 
> 
> Hello Everyone, 
> 
> I'm having problems getting files read by :include: lines in my
> aliases.majordomo file.  My mail is bouncing and I'm getting the error
> message "550 5.2.4 :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/crontest4 ...
> Cannot open /usr/local/majordomo/lists/crontest4: Permission denied"
> Below is the permission on the specified file.  It is group writable
> because MajorCool runs as group admin, and I have set "O
> DontBlameSendmail=GroupWritableIncludeFile".  
> 
> Line from aliases.majordomo:
> crontest4-outgoing:     :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/crontest4 
> 
> Permissions of crontest4 file:
> -rw-rw----  1 majordom  admin     17 Feb  7 15:44 crontest4
> 
> 
> I was under the impression that sendmail changed users to the owner of
> the file specified in the include line; if this is true I don't
> understand why I am getting a "permission denied" error.
> 
> I'm running Freebsd 4.7, sendmail 8.12.6, majordomo 1.94.5, and
> majorcool 1.3.2.  Any help is greatly appreciated!
> 
> Thank you,
> Joe Glass




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