Thanks to all the useful suggestions that were offered regarding the
.org.org error messages. Dan, you suggested that restarting named and
sendmail might be worth a try. I use ssh to log in to the FreeBSD server at
Interland where I can get root access but the server is shared as are some
of the programs. Is there a safe command line way to restart named in a
circumstance like that? Using man I don't see a command listed to use to
restart it and named isn't listed among the limited set of services that I
can restart via the administrator's web login.
William Arnold, your message below seems a likely explanation.
My own /etc/resolv.conf file currently contains just this:
(and not understood either of them fully, I wonder whether I should be
adding a line like this:
to the /etc/resolv.conf file
According to the second URL above, "The DomainName variable is the name of
the local Internet domain. If there is no domain or search entry in the
file, the gethostbyname subroutine returns the default domain (that is,
everything following the first period). If the host name does not have a
domain name included, the root domain is assumed."
So I imagine that since I don't have a domain name variable in resolv.conv,
perhaps the gethostbyname routine finds my domain ctcnet.org, which is in
the hosts file, and then everything after the first period (i.e., just .org)
is then appended to the intended email recipient's address resulting in
.org.org if their address ends in .org... Is there any risk to changing the
/etc/resolv.conf file by adding a domain line?
Sorry that this is getting a bit away from pure majordomo...
- Steve Ronan
----- Original Message -----
From: "William W. Arnold" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
To: "Stephen Ronan" <email@example.com>
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: .org.org error messages
> Stephen Ronan writes ---
> >> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> >> (reason: 553 5.3.5 system config error)
> >> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> >>553 5.3.5 abc.org.org. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?)
> >>554 5.3.5 Local configuration error
> >The closest thing I can find to a clue via google is this message
> >which seems to indicate that something similar can occur if at the
> >end someone's
> >/etc/resolv.conf file lacks a 'domain' line (whatever that means).
> >I'm curious to know whether others of you are seeing .org.org within some
> >your bounced messages and, if so, whether you may know what the problem
> >that 's causing that. Thanks for any advice.
> It happens to me fairly often.
> What's happening (as far as I can see)
> 1) the lookup for abc.org failed in such a way that your local
> nameserver thinks that there's no such domain.
> 2) In that case, it searches through it's search list of
> domains to see if it's a local address with the domain truncated.
> 3) You're at a .org site, so .org is in your search list.
> 4) so one of the addresses it looks up is abc.org.org
> 5) Which is a valid host, since the owner of org.org
> has setup his DNS to return 127.0.0.1 for all lookup attempts
> to his domain.
> 6) so your mail server attempts to deliver the mail to itself,
> detects this and error's out permenently.
> If 5) wasn't there, then it would bounce with a no such domain error.
> Of course, abc.org probably does exist, and it was just a DNS error,
> but the local system can't tell that.
> You also only see this if your sending system is a .org
> -billy- firstname.lastname@example.org