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Subject: Re: Error Msg sending newsletter
From: Daniel Liston <dliston @ sonny . org>
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:51:20 -0600
To: "Cencigh, Maurizio {PGID~Kaiseraugst}" <MAURIZIO . CENCIGH @ Roche . COM>
Cc: majordomo-users <majordomo-users @ greatcircle . com>
References: <C474481A28EBAA45AE694338D04A422C08336E@rkamsem1.emea.roche.com>
User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01

Please do these comparisons to validate uid:gid are the same between
the old and the new systems.  On each machine, run as root;

grep majordom /etc/passwd

majordom:*:54:1:Majordomo List Mgr:/var/majordomo:/usr/local/bin/bash
majordom:*:1007:1007:Majordomo Server:/home/majordom:/bin/false
majordomo:x:91:91:Majordomo List Manager:/usr/lib/majordomo:/bin/bash

As you can see, I have three machines running majordomo, but none of
them have the same uid or gid.  For that matter, none of them even
have the same home directory.  There is no way I could just copy these
instances between machines, I would have to recompile the wrapper for
each system, not to mention chown'ing files and directories.

Your majordomo address/alias is working, or you would not get replies
to the lists and who commands.  Have you tried using sendmail to
verify your list or list-outgoing addresses?

sendmail -bv listname
sendmail -bv listname-outgoing

Try these commands as both the root and the majordomo user.

Dan Liston

Cencigh, Maurizio {PGID~Kaiseraugst} wrote:
> Hi once again,
> 
> I tried with the faq article you send me. I changed sendmail.cf to
> DontBlameSendmail=safe. The group is the same since installation. I
> still get the same error msg. any more hints? I'm desperate seeking the
> solution.....
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Liston [mailto:dliston@sonny.org] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:34 PM
> To: Cencigh, Maurizio {PGID~Kaiseraugst}; majordomo-users
> Subject: Re: Error Msg sending newsletter
> 
> 
> 
> I kind of have an aversion to using daemon for the majordomo group.
> Please notice sendmail's FAQ on the majordomo subject:
> 
> http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section3.html#3.32
> 
> If you did change the group without recompiling majordomo's wrapper you
> could get error messages in the log, but another possibility is the
> version of sendmail you upgraded to (as a side effect of the newer OS)
> might utilize a submit.cf similar to the sendmail.cf.  If this is the
> case, make sure you have a "trust" statement for the majordomo user in
> that file too.
> 
> Dan Liston
> 
> 
>>
>>Hi again,
>>
>>the old server was:  Solaris 2.6 with Sendmail 8.8.8 running on E450
>>the new server is:   Solaris 8 with Sendmail 8.11.6 running on V480
>>Majordomo  1.94.5
>>
>>I only copied the lists. The lists directory was created by the 
>>majordomo installation. Then changed owner on the lists and 
>>list.config files. Uid still the same, but other group. Now I'm using 
>>group daemon before majord had an own group. In the Log file this 
>>error isn't logged. I don't understand the linking and the smrsh 
>>thing. And the group writable issue shouldn't be bothering as group 
>>has no write permission the hole path down to majordomo.
>>
>>Thank for help.
>>Maurizio
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Daniel Liston [mailto:dliston@sonny.org]
>>Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 7:08 PM
>>To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com
>>Subject: Re: Error Msg sending newsletter
>>
>>
>>You also need to check down to /usr/local/majordomo/lists actually. 
>>NO, Definately do NOT change any permissions to group writable if you 
>>want to keep sendmail happy.
>>
>>You have not mentioned your hardware, operating system, or versions of
> 
> 
>>sendmail or majordomo.  If you just "copied" majordomo from one server
> 
> 
>>to the other, did you make SURE that you used the same UID and GID on 
>>both machines?  I mean the number, not the name. Wrapper is dependent 
>>on this.  If sendmail is new on one machine than the other, you may 
>>also need to add a link to wrapper in the proper smrsh directory.  
>>Perhaps a cut and paste of the exact error message from the log file 
>>would be helpful here too.
>>
>>Dan Liston
>>
>>Cencigh, Maurizio {PGID~Kaiseraugst} wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I checked permissions on my subscriber files, but still get the error.
>>
>>
>>>The directory structure down to majordomo is not group writable. I 
>>>installed with daemon as group, but majord is not member of it. any 
>>>other hints? must the dir structure be group writable? I'm SysAdmin 
>>>but I don't know Sendmail and its behaviors...... any help is 
>>>apreciated a lot.
>>>
>>>Maurizio
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Daniel Liston [mailto:dliston@sonny.org]
>>>Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 4:50 PM
>>>To: Cencigh, Maurizio {PGID~Kaiseraugst};
>>>majordomo-users@greatcircle.com
>>>Subject: Re: Error Msg sending newsletter
>>>
>>>
>>>Check the ownership/permission on your new majordomo installation. If 
>>>you are running sendmail on the new server, it might now allow group 
>>>or world "writable" permission down the path to majordomo's directory.
>>
>>
>>>For example, /, /usr, /usr/local, /usr/local/majordomo. Sendmail will 
>>>also complain about group or world writable :include: files in your 
>>>lists directory.  These are your list membership or zubscriber files.
>>>
>>>Dan Liston
>>>
>>>Cencigh, Maurizio {PGID~Kaiseraugst} wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>hi all,
>>>>
>>>>I'm migrating a Server, so I installed a new Majordomo on the new
>>>>server. I copied the old lists and aliases. When I send a mail to 
>>>>majordomo like who listname or lists, I get back an answer. When I
>>>
> try
> 
>>>
>>>>to send a newsletter to a list I get the error message below. Anybody
>>>>an idea? Please help. My majordomo isn't working right now.
>>>>
>>>>Unable to expand a distribution list to deliver the message to its
>>>>members.  Try again or contact your system administrator.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>>Maurizio
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> 
> 




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