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Subject: Re: Majordomo messages to hotmail users
From: Daniel Liston <dliston @ sonny . org>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:24:10 -0500
To: Majordomo Users <majordomo-users @ greatcircle . com>
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Jack L. Stone wrote:

> At 12:07 PM 8.26.2003 -0500, Daniel Liston wrote:
> 
>>Don't forget, hotmail has "custom" filters too, the simplest reason
>>for lost mail.  I have not looked at my hotmail account for quite a
>>while, but my first custom filter was "if not To-Cc my name-address
>>then delete immediately"  I don't remember ever setting up that filter,
>>but I only get about 3-5 spams per day in that account too.  I also
>>NEVER sign up for mailing lists at that address, as I would rather
>>just use it to trap spam.
>>
>>I would also set the MAXMSGS down to 8, as long as normal message
>>body size is less than 6K in size.  If your messages start getting
>>larger than that, you will want to reduce the 8 to something else
>>again.  Experimentation got me this number for netscape users.
>>
>>Dan Liston
>>
> 
> 
> Dan, I'd be interested in this one. I am guessing that setting the MAXMSGS to
> "8" (or any other number) and if you have 80 hotmails on the mail list,
> it'll do 10 sends of 8 each....?? Is this correct?
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Jack L. Stone,
> Administrator
> 
> Sage American
> http://www.sage-american.com
> jacks@sage-american.com

I think it will do more than that if your list is not sorted by
domain.  Unless you have changed other default settings, sendmail
will go down the list of recipients making a separate connection
for each delivery UNLESS there are multiple recipients to the same
domain all in a row.  Here are the README.cf entries, followed by
my interpretation, of them;

SMTP_MAILER_MAX         [undefined] The maximum size of messages that will
                        be transported using the smtp, smtp8, esmtp, or dsmtp
                        mailers.
SMTP_MAILER_MAXMSGS     [undefined] If defined, the maximum number of
                        messages to deliver in a single connection for the
                        smtp, smtp8, esmtp, or dsmtp mailers.
SMTP_MAILER_MAXRCPTS    [undefined] If defined, the maximum number of
                        recipients to deliver in a single connection for the
                        smtp, smtp8, esmtp, or dsmtp mailers.

These are all about outgoing messages.  SMTP_MAILER_MAX is about bytes per
message.  Undefined equates to a default of unlimited.  SMTP_MAILER_MAXMSGS
per connection, implies per domain, unless you are using a smarthost.  This
one means you can have multiple recipients per message but still only transfer
X number of messages during that connection.  SMTP_MAILER_MAXRCPTS is the
indicator of how spammy your message may be.  It used to be that this had to
be set to less than 15 for AOL, and does not mean recipients per message, but
recipients per SMTP connection to that domain.

Someone please correct me if I am misunderstanding these.

Dan Liston



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