Okay, I'll try not to get you started on how broken outlook is. :(
I've done some more tracing through logs, and I'm pretty confident that
this is not actually a Majordomo problem.
I have my list configured so that if users hit "reply" it goes to the
original message sender, and "reply all" goes to the original sender and
the list.
What I'm seeing, at least in one of the two cases, is the following:
1. Outlook user hits reply-all to message I posted, message gets sent To:
test@sci1.com, howard@sci1.com
2. Message hits Outlook user's ISP. Qmail on ISP sends the message twice
to my ISP, once for test@sci1.com, once for
howard@sci1.com. Unfortunately, both messages continue to have both
addresses in the To: line.
3. When my system fetches the messages from my ISP, it fetches two
messages. Since both of them are destined for both addresses, I see four
messages when Majordomo and Sendmail are done processing them.
I don't know why Qmail is sending two messages, and whether or not this is
related to something broken in Outlook's headers.
Any ideas?
The message headers are reproduced below, in case it's helpful.
Thank you,
Howard
Return-Path: <gdjmsp@qwest.net>
Received: from localhost (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
by server.sci1.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA31572;
Thu, 11 Sep 2003 16:50:44 -0700
X-Original-To: test@sci1.com
Delivered-To: hspindel.pacifier.com@mx5.pacifier.net
Received: from mail.pacifier.com
by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0)
Thu, 11 Sep 2003 16:50:44 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net (mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net
[63.231.195.112])
by mx5.pacifier.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BB2A05E29B
for <test@sci1.com>; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 17:44:09 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 31829 invoked by uid 0); 12 Sep 2003 00:44:09 -0000
Received: from unknown (63.231.195.1)
by mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net with QMQP; 12 Sep 2003 00:44:09 -0000
Received: from pppdslk225.slkc.uswest.net (HELO newibm) (63.225.233.225)
by mpls-pop-01.inet.qwest.net with SMTP; 12 Sep 2003 00:44:09 -0000
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 18:42:02 -0600
Message-ID: <005901c378c6$aeaf7d20$0100a8c0@newibm>
From: "GDJMSP" <gdjmsp@qwest.net>
To: "Howard Spindel" <howard@sci1.com>, test@sci1.com
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030911013739.112d0010@mail.sci1.com>
Subject: Re: [test.sci1.com] another test
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
OK - reply to all.
Doug
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Return-Path: <gdjmsp@qwest.net>
Received: from localhost (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
by server.sci1.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA31564;
Thu, 11 Sep 2003 16:50:43 -0700
X-Original-To: howard@sci1.com
Delivered-To: hspindel.pacifier.com@mx5.pacifier.net
Received: from mail.pacifier.com
by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.0)
Thu, 11 Sep 2003 16:50:43 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net (mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net
[63.231.195.112])
by mx5.pacifier.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B9B005E297
for <howard@sci1.com>; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 17:44:09 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 31829 invoked by uid 0); 12 Sep 2003 00:44:09 -0000
Received: from unknown (63.231.195.1)
by mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net with QMQP; 12 Sep 2003 00:44:09 -0000
Received: from pppdslk225.slkc.uswest.net (HELO newibm) (63.225.233.225)
by mpls-pop-01.inet.qwest.net with SMTP; 12 Sep 2003 00:44:09 -0000
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 18:42:02 -0600
Message-ID: <005901c378c6$aeaf7d20$0100a8c0@newibm>
From: "GDJMSP" <gdjmsp@qwest.net>
To: "Howard Spindel" <howard@sci1.com>, test@sci1.com
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030911013739.112d0010@mail.sci1.com>
Subject: Re: [test.sci1.com] another test
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
OK - reply to all.
Doug
At 01:52 PM 9/12/2003 -0500, Daniel Liston wrote:
>Please do not get me started on how broken outlook* is. :(
>
>Does outlook generate two messages if the list does not pass
>through demime? Are there more than one message if you write
>or compose mail directly to your test-list address?
>
>Dan Liston
>
>Howard Spindel wrote:
>
> > I have a new majordomo setup.
> >
> > I am running tests on a small scale before trying to go production with
> > it. So far, I am running into a problem in that when some of my testers
> > reply to the list everyone (including the poster) sees two copies of his
> > post. The only thing I see in common with the posters who get doubled
> > messages is that they are using Outlook Express as a client. Posters
> > using Netscape or Eudora (so far) do not see doubled messages.
> >
> > Is Outlook Express' reply function broken? Is there a Majordomo hack
> > around it?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Howard
> >
> >
> > My aliases are:
> >
> > # Majordomo aliases
> > majordomo: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper majordomo"
> > owner-majordomo: howard
> > majordomo-owner: howard
> >
> > # List aliases
> > # Test
> > test: "|/home/majordomo/demime.pl '|/home/majordomo/wrapper resend -l
> > test test-list'"
> > test-list: :include:/home/majordomo/lists/test
> > owner-test: howard
> > test-owner: howard
> > test-request: "|/home/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l test"
> > test-approval: howard
> >
> > I can see in my sendmail logs that the alias "test" was the recipient of
> > the message twice. I can also see in the logs that the it was called
> > twice with the same message ID from the same sender.
> >
> >
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