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Subject: Re: How to get bounced messages sent to sender and not just list
From: Steve Rifkin <steve410 @ cs . jhu . edu>
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 18:57:09 -0400 (EDT)
To: majordomo-users @ greatcircle . com, dliston @ sonny . org
Cc: steve410 @ cs . jhu . edu
Reply-to: Steve Rifkin <steve410 @ cs . jhu . edu>

Dan,  I couldn't agree with you more.  It's a request from the boss.  He wants 
people trying to mail to us and who get the bounce find out what the alternate 
address is automatically to get into the list (an alias).  He feels that most 
spam coming in is sent in an automated fashion (and that if we bounced back a 
message, only humans will be able to interpret it, and therefore, the automated 
spammers won't).  He's not concerned if some human spammers get the address (I 
can just see them now getting the address and adding it to their list of 
addresses to spam, but he doesn't see that as being as big a deal as not 
allowing outsiders who are not members of the list still get the chance to mail 
the list some way.)  Anyway, he wanted me to find out if there was a way to 
customize the bounce message and to whom the bounce message should go (and I 
assume it's going to require patching resend or something like that.)

Anyway, since the boss requested it, I figured I at least had to find out if 
it's possible and how it would be done.

Thanks!

Steve


> Steve Rifkin wrote:
> 
> > Now, that I've got restrict2post working, when someone outside the restrict 
> > lists sends to the list, the list owner gets a bounced (non-member 
submission) 
> > message.
> 
> Congratulations ! :)
> > 
> > How do I get some kind of customized bounced message sent back to the sender 
as 
> > well?
> 
> Bad idea when you consider the possible mail loops that can be created doing 
this.
> > 
> > There are some lists here that for the senders that are non-members and 
produce 
> > a bounce, we want to send a message back to them automatically with some 
> > site-details.
> 
> This should never happen.  Senders that are non-members should already be in 
your
> restrict_post configuration.  Those that are not "should be" handled by a 
human,
> not an automated process.  Automating the process would be nearly the same as
> just having an open list to begin with.
> 
> Dan Liston
> 
> 


Steve Rifkin - JHU CS Dept Sr. Unix Systems Administrator
               Technical Director
steve410@cs.jhu.edu
410-516-6281




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