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Subject: Re: New Server
From: Daniel Liston <dliston @ sonny . org>
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:23:52 -0600
To: karlp @ ourldsfamily . com
Cc: Majordomo-users @ greatcircle . com
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I agree with going to RH8 vs RH9 for compatibility and stability issues.

Your majorcool is probably 1.3.2.  I don't think it has been updated
any more recently than majordomo 1.94.5 has.  You are also correct in
your assumption of MJ2 not needing a separate web interface.

RedHat 8.0 also has spamassassin enabled by default, or does it? Either
way, if you got it, use it. :)  Also, the newer perl seems to have an
issue with with locality.  I can't remember the variable right now, but
I recall some value being set to =C vs =US vs =US_en.

Your sendmail will still have to be configured to trust majordomo, and
I believe the MSP setting is the same between 8.11 and 8.12.

Lastly, RedHat throws you a curve with 8.0 by setting mailman active by
default, and uses the same name for the link /etc/smrsh/wrapper.  To use
majordomo, you have to disable smrsh (might as well if you allow users
to have procmail recipes anyway), or rename the link so majordomo can
put the link it needs in there.

If you are ready to start a new learning curve, you might try MJ2, and
possibly postfix (also a default in 8.0).  There is no "rpm" for mj2,
but it does use the more common "perl" method of install.  I have not
become as familiar with CPAN as I should, or mj2 to offer more advice.

I am actually leaning toward the Sun Java System services on linux for
LDAP, Web server, and MTA, (maybe more) but I have no idea what this
would mean in regards to automated list management.  I think it would
require me to LDAP enable majordomo, or enable some not dead yet legacy
configurations in their MTA.

Does anyone know if MJII is LDAP aware?

Dan Liston

karlp@ourldsfamily.com wrote:

> Hi Wise Ones...
> 
> I can't imagine I'm the only one to do this, so I turn to your experience
> for guidance. Yes, I've bit the big one and installed a new server. So
> far, I've moved DNS and the users over. However, because of the
> intertwining of HTTP, SMTP, MTA, MD1.94.5, MajorCool, CGI and whatever
> else I can't think of...
> 
> Well, what would you recommend.
> 
> Current:
> 
> Redhat 7.0
> MD 1.94.5
> MajorCool (Not sure)
> Sendmail 8.11.0-8 (no security problems, ever!
> Apache 1.3.14-3
> Perl 5.6.0-9
> 
> New:
> 
> Redhat 8.0
> MD 2? 1.94.5.rpm?
> MajorCool (MD 2 wouldn't need it, right? and we don't use it much)
> Sendmail 8.12.5-7
> Apache (httpd) 2.0.40-8
> Perl 5.8.0-55
> 
> Just as an FYI, I'm switching from an old P300mmx to an AMD 1600+
> (1400Mhz). I chose Redhat 8 instead of Redhat 9 because 9 didn't seem very
> stable. I'm familiar with RH8 as I use it at work and home already.
> 
> Help?
> 
> --
> Karl L. Pearson
> Senior Consulting Systems Analyst
> Senior Consulting Database Analyst
> karlp@ourldsfamily.com
> http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com
>  My Thoughts on Terrorism In America:
>  http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml



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