Re: How to control order of delivery

[Daniel Liston <dliston @ sonny . org>]

Sorry for the long delay.  Working 20 hours a day lately.  Short
answer, yes (confirmed).

Dan Liston

Barry Koopersmith wrote:

> Yes, my web hosting provider uses "sendmail" with "majordomo" and I 
> found the file located at "/etc/aliases". I pasted the contents of that 
>  file below.
> 
> Please confirm that the line should be modified to look as follows (all 
> on a single line):
> 
> lourds_announcements: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l 
> lourds_announcements -h irbl.net 
> lourds_announcements-outgoing,lourds@lourdsmusic.com,bkoopers@optonline.net" 
> 
> 
> I do not have rights to modify any "system" file so I submit a request 
> to my web hosting provider's technical support people and they make the 
> change for me. I noticed that the file has a comment at the top that 
> states to run "newaliases" after modifying the "aliases" file. They 
> probably already know that but am I correct that I should specifically 
> ask them to run it after the change (just in case they did not know)?
> 
> Am I correct that if I will leave those two email addresses in the main 
> mailing list, after this change, those two email addresses should get 
> the email very quickly after an email is sent to the list and a second 
> copy will arrive the usual 30 minutes later? If I am correct, if that 
> happens (getting 2 emails 30 minutes apart), then I know the change was 
> done correctly and I can then remove those two email addresses from the 
> main list?
> 
> Thanks again for all your assistance.
> 
> ******************************************************************
> #
> #    @(#)aliases    8.2 (Berkeley) 3/5/94
> #
> #  Aliases in this file will NOT be expanded in the header from
> #  Mail, but WILL be visible over networks or from /bin/mail.
> #
> #    >>>>>>>>>>    The program "newaliases" must be run after
> #    >> NOTE >>    this file is updated for any changes to
> #    >>>>>>>>>>    show through to sendmail.
> #
> 
> # Basic system aliases -- these MUST be present.
> MAILER-DAEMON:    postmaster
> postmaster:    root
> site_blackhole: /dev/null
> 
> root:    bkoopersmith
> catch-all:    bkoopersmith
> 
> majordomo:    "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo"
> lourds_announcements: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l 
> lourds_announcements -h irbl.net lourds_announcements-outgoing"
> lourds_announcements-outgoing: 
> :include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/lourds_announcements
> lourds_announcements-list: 
> :include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/lourds_announcements
> owner-lourds_announcements: bkoopers@optonline.net
> lourds_announcements-owner: bkoopers@optonline.net
> lourds_announcements-approval: bkoopers@optonline.net
> lourds_announcements-request: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l 
> lourds_announcements"
> ******************************************************************
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: How to control order of delivery
> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 04:22:20 -0600
> From: Daniel Liston <dliston@sonny.org>
> To: Barry Koopersmith <bkoopers@optonline.net>
> CC: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com
> 
> On a machine that hosts domains, the file could be called anything
> and located anywhere.  Look for /etc/aliases or /etc/mail/aliases
> as a flat text file.  If your MTA is other than sendmail, that hint
> might not be worth the electrons that sent it either.  You edit the
> file with your favorite text editor like vi, emacs, or pico.
> 
> The line you want to replace should look something like this;
> lourds_announcements: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l 
> lourds_announcements lourds_announcements-list,nobody"
> 
> when you modify it, it should look like this;
> lourds_announcements: "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l 
> lourds_announcements 
> lourds_announcements-list,lourds@lourdsmusic.com,bkoopers@optonline.net"
> 
> Depending on the location for the majordomo wrapper, the path above
> could be different.  The example I used is from a redhat installation.
> Also, your outgoing alias might be named different.  The example I
> used "lourds_announcements-list" might have a different extension to
> replace "list" with "outgoing", "20050220", or any random string.
> 
> Dan Liston
> 
> PS.  Both of the examples above are on a single line, just in case
> this email gets long lines wrapped into multiple lines.
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: How to control order of delivery
> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:36:03 -0500
> From: Barry Koopersmith <bkoopers@optonline.net>
> To: Daniel Liston <dliston@sonny.org>
> CC: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com
> 
> Thank you for your response.
> 
> I am new to using mailing lists. I bought the "Managing Mailing Lists"
> by Alan Schwartz book but I cannot figure out how to implement your
> suggestion.
> 
> I only have two email addresses that I want to speed up delivery for.
> The two addresses are lourds@lourdsmusic.com and bkoopers@optonline.net.
> The mailing list name is lourds_announcements. Please tell me the name
> of the file and the exact command line that I would need to insert (and
> where in the file it should be placed) based on the above values.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: How to control order of delivery
> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:41:54 -0600
> From: Daniel Liston <dliston@sonny.org>
> To: Barry Koopersmith <bkoopers@optonline.net>
> CC: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com
> 
> If this is just for one or two addresses, you might speed things along
> considerably by adding the addresses directly to the aliases file.
> 
> listname: "/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l listname
> listname-outgoing,addr1,addr2"
> or
> listname-outgoing: addr1,addr2,:include:/path-to/lists/listname
> 
> Dan Liston
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: How to control order of delivery
> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:24:12 -0500
> From: Barry Koopersmith <bkoopers@optonline.net>
> To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com
> 
> I have a mailing list of about 1400 addresses (including my address).
> When an email is posted to the list, I get my copy from 30 to 45 minutes
> later. I tried move my email address to the top of the list of names but
> I still did not receive my copy quickly.
> 
> Does the Majordomo software send out the emails in alphabetical order of
> the addresses (regardless of the order in the address list file) or what
> controls the order of delivery.?
> 
> Is there a way to configure the distribution so that two particular
> addresses get the emails first (and hopefully quickly)?
> 
> Thanks to anyone who can help me out.
>