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Subject: Re: Reply to: not working
From: Ed Kasky <ed @ esson . net>
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 10:33:54 -0700
To: <robert . isaac @ volvoclub . org . uk>
Cc: <Majordomo-Users @ greatcircle . com>
In-reply-to: <200509011535.j81FZhmE011662@nc3-0016.web.uk.netscalibur.com>
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At 08:38 AM Thursday, 9/1/2005, Robert Isaac wrote -=>

>The dropped (s) was a typo, thanks for pointing it out. The alias's seem 
>to be working correctly:
>lists-owner: volvo lists: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" 
>majordomo: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo" owner-majordomo: 
>lists-owner majordomo-owner: lists-owner directors: 
>"|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l directors directors-list" 
>directors-list: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/directors 
>owner-directors: robert.isaac@volvoclub.org.uk directors-owner: 
>robert.isaac@volvoclub.org.uk directors-approval: 
>robert.isaac@volvoclub.org.uk directors-request: 
>"|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -l directors"
These look okay to me with one exception.  I would add "nobody" at the end 
of the wrapper alias:
directors: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l directors 
directors-list,nobody"

 From the faq:

    Sendmail 8.x will unfortunately log your -outgoing alias in the
    "Received:" lines. To prevent this you need to specify more than one
    address for the list name argument to resend. (for example
    "mylist:|"/usr/local/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -h foo.org -l mylist
    mylist-seekrit,nobody"" where nobody is an alias for /dev/null)

You would add the following to your aliases:
nobody: /dev/null

>'volvo' in line 1 is my mailbox, should this be an actual address or does 
>it not matter?

Not sure what you mean by this.

>Now I have sorted out the smrsh issue as well new users can subscribe and 
>the messages all come through. I will see how the 'directors-list' runs as 
>it is only a small one, before setting up our main list.
>
>Is an incorrect GID and UID likely to be a problem. I used a current 
>user/group - daemon - in Makefile, as it would not install if I created a 
>new user and group 'majordomo'.

If it were I don't think anything would work for the list.  Am I correct in 
assuming that the list is sending to the recipients but not  reading 
updates to the config file?

Check that the config file is


>Thanks for your help, greatly appreciated.
>
>Bob
>
>___________________________________________________
>Robert Isaac
>Director and Web Administrator
>Volvo Owners Club
>
><file://www.volvoclub.org.uk>www.volvoclub.org.uk
>
>Please include all previous text with reply
>All messages are scanned with an antivirus scanner.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com 
>[<mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com>mailto:majordomo-users-owner@greatcircle.com] 
>On Behalf Of Ed Kasky
>Sent: 01 September 2005 06:30
>To: robert.isaac@volvoclub.org.uk
>Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com
>Subject: Re: Reply to: not working
>
>Is the list "director-list" or "directors-list" - you have it as the 
>former in your footer and the latter in the reply_to
>
>Also, personally I find it much easier to keep all the file names the same 
>as the list.  In your config file you are mixing "directors" and 
>"director(s)-list"
>
>On another note, I had a problem very similar to this recently setting up 
>a new list.  None of the changes I was making in the config file were 
>taking effect when posting.  I figured out the my aliases for the list 
>were not correct.
>
>Double check the aliases if you can against a known working example.
>
>This is what I use as a template for lists with an archive and digest:
>test: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l test test-outgoing,nobody'"
>test-outgoing: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/test, test-archive, 
>test-digestify
>test-digestify: "|/usr/local/majordomo/digest -r -C -l test-digest 
>test-digest-outgoing"
>test-digest: test
>test-digest-outgoing: :include:/usr/local/majordomo/lists/test-digest
>test-archive:  "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper archive -f 
>/usr/local/majordomo/archives/test/test -a -M"
>
>At 02:23 PM Wednesday, 8/31/2005, Robert Isaac wrote -=>
>
> >  Thank you. I use Webmin which has a Majordomo module. To answer your
> > questions:
> >Where exactly are you making these changes?
> >In the config file for the list - directors-list, the file is
> >/lists/directors.config:
> >
> >This is for the footer:
> >         # message_footer       [string_array] (undef) <resend,digest>
> >         # Text to be appended at the end of all messages posted to the
> >         # list. The text is expanded before being used. The following
> >         # expansion tokens are defined: $LIST - the name of the current
> >         # list, $SENDER - the sender as taken from the from line, 
> $VERSION,
> >         # the version of majordomo. If used in a digest, no expansion
> >         # tokens are provided
> >message_footer        <<   END
> >NOTE: When sending a reply send it to: director-list@volvoclub.org.uk
> >END
> >
> >This is for the Reply to:
> >
> >         # reply_to             [word] () <resend,digest>
> >         # Put a reply-to header with value <value> into the outgoing
> >         # message. If the token $SENDER is used, then the address of the
> >         # sender is used as the value of the reply-to header. This is the
> >         # value of the reply-to header for digest lists.
> >reply_to = directors-list@volvoclub.org.uk
> >
> >         # resend_host          [word] (undef) <resend>
> >         # The host name that is appended to all address strings specified
> >         # for resend.
> >resend_host = volvoclub.org.uk
> >
> >         # restrict_post        [restrict_post] (undef) <resend>
> >         # If defined, only addresses listed in these files (colon or space
> >         # separated) can post to the mailing list. By default, these files
> >         # are relative to the lists directory. These files are also 
> checked
> >         # when get_access, index_access, info_access, intro_access,
> >         # which_access, or who_access is set to 'list'. This is less 
> useful
> >         # than it seems it should be since there is no way to create these
> >         # files if you do not have access to the machine running resend.
> >         # This mechanism will be replaced in a future version of
> >         # majordomo/resend.
> >restrict_post = directors
> >
> >         # sender               [word] (owner-directors)
> > <majordomo,resend,dig
> >         # The envelope and sender address for the resent mail. This string
> >         # has "@" and the value of resend_host appended to it to make a
> >         # complete address. For majordomo, it provides the sender address
> >         # for the welcome mail message generated as part of the subscribe
> >         # command.
> >sender              =   owner-directors
> >
> >My understanding of the Reply to: is that when someone uses 'reply' to
> >an email from the list (directors-list) the list address automatically
> >goes into the TO field in the reply email so that it goes to the list
> >and not the originator. Have I misunderstood this?
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Ed Kasky [<mailto:ed@esson.net>mailto:ed@esson.net]
> >Sent: 31 August 2005 21:45
> >To: robert.isaac@volvoclub.org.uk
> >Cc: Majordomo-Users@greatcircle.com
> >Subject: Re: Reply to: not working
> >
> >At 01:33 PM Wednesday, 8/31/2005, you wrote -=>
> > >ProLiant DL360 running RHESL4 with Apache 2 and Sendmail 8.13.1, with
> > >Majordomo 1.94.5
> > >
> > >I cannot get the Reply to: to work for discussions. If I put "Reply to:
> > >directors-list@volvoclub.org.uk" and send an email to the list from
> > >me, it arrives OK, but if I use the 'reply' function the email
> > >address in
> > the From:
> > >field is mine, not directors-list@volvoclub.org.uk. What have I missed 
> out?
> > >
> > >Also, the footer does not appear on the email.
> >
> >Where exactly are you making these changes?
> >
> >Are you making the changes to the config file directly or via email??
> >
> >Post what you have in your config file for these two things - it will
> >help us help you.
>
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