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Subject: Re: Non-english character sets and moderated lists
From: Daniel Liston <dliston @ sonny . org>
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:51:53 -0500
To: Brett Charbeneau <brett @ wrl . org>, majordomo-users @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606061205240.5652@franklin.wrl.org>
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Since the characters came through the majordomo-users list
successfully, also an unmoderated list, it appears we may
have a bug in the code regarding moderating a list.  I am
on vacation this week, and on a project in california the
following week, but maybe another list member can help
before then.  If not, I will see what I can do when I get
back.  Have you experienced any other characters with the
same problem, or is it generally all characters higher than
ASCII 127, (the extended ASCII set)?

Dan Liston

Brett Charbeneau wrote:

> On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Daniel Liston wrote:
> 
> Hey Dan - thanks for the response!
> 
> DL> What have you done to troubleshoot this, ie. identify majordomo as the
> DL> problem? 
>     Well, the messages that won't distribute bounce back to the
> moderator with "Approval required:" errors even though she used the
> correct format and password for approved messages.
>     In an attempt to troubleshoot I pared down the list to make me the
> only subscriber. I then took the original troublesome post and submitted
> it with the approval password, slicing off lines in the post until it
> distributed, and then seeing what that last line contained. In the
> particular instance I worked with it was actually two lines of text that
> caused trouble:
> 
> "Paxton's 40-year career. A two-time Grammy® nominee, he has received the"
> "Tafelmusik of Toronto and Concerto Köln in addition to other early and"
> 
>        Please note the "®" and "ö" in these two lines. Once I removed
> those characters, the message went out to the list as expected.
>     I asked my moderator to please paste the contents of future posts
> into Wordpad and then cut and past THAT into Pine for submission. This
> seems to remove most of the special characters like this.
> 
> DL> What is your MTA, and version?  What version of majordomo are you
> running?
> 
>     Sorry I neglected to mention this.     Sendmail 8.13.4 (running on
> Debian 3.1).
>     Majordomow version is 1.94.5 with no patches that I can find/remember.
> 
> DL> Is your MTA configured to allow non-ASCII characters?
> 
>     Good question.     I have not altered the default settings in this
> particular area and can't find from SENDMAIL.ORG or Google what the
> default setting for non-ASCII charactersfor this version is.     <pout>
>     Anyone happen to know?
> 
> DL> Is your global "majordomo.cf" catching "TABOO" regular expressions? 
>     No, that portion of the majordomo.cf file is still commented out.
> 
> DL> Is the problem specific to one list, or all your lists? Have you
> tried to DL> send a message with foreign characters to another list to
> be certain it is DL> not a configuration issue?
> 
>     Using the two line of quoted text as a test message, I tested two of
> our lists. The special characters will go out as-is to the unmoderated
> list.
>     Using another moderated list as a test, the text would not
> distribute to the list, even with the correct password, until I removed
> the "®" and "ö" then it went out like a champ.
>     Please let me know if I can provide more info!
> 
> 
> Brett
> 
> 
> DL> Brett Charbeneau wrote:
> DL> DL> >     One of our MJ lists is a newsletter of sorts and has a
> moderator who
> DL> > sends text to the list by cutting and pasting text from MS
> DL> > FrontPage-prepared HTML pages.
> DL> >     Occasionally, this text contains characters from non-English
> sets -
> DL> > mostly accented characters and such - which majordomo seems to
> choke on.
> DL> > As long as these accents are in the text the message cannot be
> approved
> DL> > for distribution. Once they are manually removed, the messages go
> out fine.
> DL> >     I originally asked the moderator to past her text into Notepad to
> DL> > 'normalize' the text, and THEN cut and past into Pine for and MJ
> post,
> DL> > but many of these characters seem to survive this.
> DL> >     Is there a way to force MJ to ignore these kinds of characters in
> DL> > the body of a post?
> DL> > DL> DL>




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