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Subject: Re: messages trough majordomo get queued, EX_TEMPFAIL msg.
From: Daniel Liston <dliston @ sonny . org>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:39:05 -0600
To: Matias Lopez Bergero <mlopezb @ udesa . edu . ar>
Cc: majordomo-users @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: <458A998F.1060706@udesa.edu.ar>
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Load Average is different for every machine.  If you have statistical
information regarding your machines "normal" load vs. "high" load, I
would set the max_loadavg in majordomo.cf to your high mark.  You do
not want majordomo to be the cause of pushing your machine over the
edge.

Dan Liston

Matias Lopez Bergero wrote:
> Daniel Liston wrote:
> 
>>Does this email come from the same server as your majordomo?  Is any
>>other user of the system having trouble getting mail to the outside
>>world?  As the root user, can you "mail -s test mailbox @
 other .
 domain"?
>>
>>The real question I am asking, is if your sendmail is working.  If not,
>>there is no way for majordomo to work, because it depends entirely on
>>your MTA for email delivery.  Mail might come in ok, and work between
>>internal mailboxes, without being able to talk to the rest of the 'net.
> 
> 
> Yes, the MTA was working fine, and that was what get me confused. But I
> have already solved the problem.
> The problem was entirely my fault.
> 
> Wen the messages via majordomo started to arrive late, from four to six
> hours of delay, I comment out the line that sets the max_loadavg
> variable at the majordomo.conf. Looks like without this line majordomo
> waits for the system to have 0 load average :-P.
> 
> So, after burning my brain, I try setting this parameter again, and
> things works out. I feel like kind of idiot, but shit happens :-D
> 
> Now I have a question, what would be a good value to set this
> configuration variable?
> 
> Thanks for your help Daniel.
> 
> BR,
> Matias.
> 
> 
> 
>>Matias Lopez Bergero wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hello Daniel,
>>>
>>>Daniel Liston wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Has anything been installed on your server that could have replaced the
>>>>/etc/smrsh/wrapper link to /usr/local/majordomo/wrapper?
>>>
>>>
>>>no, nothing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Has the machine been busy (high cpu) where majordomo might not be able
>>>>to pass mail to the MTA?
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, I change the $max_loadavg value to release this a little bit, but
>>>the load isn't to much anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>When you refer to messages sent directly to a mailbox, do you mean by
>>>>majordomo or by some other source?
>>>
>>>
>>>Sorry, I mean sending a mail to a local user from a local account or a
>>>remote one. The message is received with no delay at all.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Considering the failure is temporary, does the mail eventually get
>>>>delivered?
>>>
>>>
>>>I was happening that the message was getting in after four to six hours
>>>later, but now is getting even worst, I haven't get a single message
>>>trough majordomo since yesterday
>>>
>>>I have tons of similar problems reports over the list and other mailing
>>>lists, but no one haves give me a clue of where the problem maybe.
>>>I configured sendmail to run without smrsh and the error was the same
>>>but instead smrsh was /bin/sh.
>>>
>>>Thank you,
>>>Matias.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Dan Liston
>>>>
>>>>Matias Lopez Bergero wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>The last days I am having this problem, it seems that all the messages
>>>>>that goes trough majordomo are getting queued, here is a mailq output:
>>>>>
>>>>>kBKFLeZP009438        0      30769 Dec 20 12:21 owner-prueba
>>>>>              (Deferred: prog mailer (/usr/sbin/smrsh) exited with
>>>>>EX_TEMPFAIL)
>>>>>
>>>>>(---prueba:8:0:<prueba @
 udesa .
 edu .
 ar>---)
>>>>>
>>>>>"|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l prueba prueba-list-00FF
>>>>>              (Deferred: prog mailer (/usr/sbin/smrsh) exited with
>>>>>EX_TEMPFAIL)
>>>>>
>>>>>A message sent directly to a mailbox get passed without a problem.
>>>>>I have completely no idea of what is happening,
>>>>>Any help is most welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Matias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
> 



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