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Subject: Re: message_footer etc
From: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs @ berklix . org>
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:46:28 +0100
To: majordomo-users @ greatcircle . com
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abbott @
 techniserve .
 com wrote:
> >Regarding my problem. It seems like it was related to HTML mail. I was testing 
> >from a yahoo account, and when examin things I found that I was posting in 
> >HTML format from the yahoo account.
> >When changing the setup so that any mail was sendt in pure ASCII, it worked.
> 
> This seems to have been a problem for a long time and is not related to .post only, but to ALL posters.  With nearly all senders embellishing their email, the footer is nearly useless.
> 
> Is there any fix to this to have a reliable footer?

... coming in late on thread ...

I used to think HTML was problem too, but not quite actually, merely
related, (could prove that by eg sending just a .jpg) It's a problem
of MIME enclosures.  Majordomo is clueless about MIME, Doesnt
recognise poster has sent a MIME mail, majordomo just appends footer as
usual, but Majordomo does Not append another MIME enclosure delimeter.
(I think terminal delimeter is slightly different to intermediate too,
so needs stripping & re-appending).

Mail reader tools (like EXMH 2.7.2 on FreeBSD & readers on Microsoft,
do understand MIME, but fail to display the final MIME enclosure
(the footer) if there is no terminating MIME enclosure delimeter.

( I've succesfully tried manually editing in another MIME delimeter
& then EXMH displays footer, but problem is the delimeter uses a
per mail dependent string ).

The real solution would be to extend majordomo to be MIME aware
	- More modern mail list tools such as Mailman are MIME aware.
	- Is Majordomo-2 MIME aware ?


> From: "Robert Doty" <rdoty @
 psasm .
 biz>
> Yes.  I have a solution which allows you to define an HTML footer and it
> gets appended to all messages that contain HTML.  The downside is that you
> need to maintain two footers,

Sounds useful.
Hopefuly the Ascii footer doesnt get sent too on HTML postings, as
double footers would confuse some people on some lists I run:
	( Who are more than confused enough already), Some are total
	  incompetents, can't understand ascii, or subscribe addresses
	  etc, hence I'm constantly tempted to switch to Mailman,
	  to avoid dealing with them ).

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