From majordomo-workers-owner Fri Jun 1 16:11:06 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id PAA29287; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail205.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.145]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D4717E8B for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chewient ([65.80.48.42]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.01.01 201-252-104) with SMTP id <20010601225653.ITMZ16933.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@chewient> for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:56:53 -0400 Message-ID: <014a01c0eaee$0a899a40$0100a8c0@chewient> From: "Dennis Lovelady" To: Subject: Fw: majordomo/smrsh/"Service unavailable" problem Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:53:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: majordomo-workers-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hello, majordomo gurus: I have installed majordomo-1.94.5 on a fresh system. (RedHat 7.1, kernel 2.4.4) The installation target was /usr/lib/majordomo-1.94.5. Owner and group for the installation are majordomo:majordomo (yes, I know this is a 9-byte userid.) This system uses smrsh, so I have the following link: /etc/smrsh/wrapper -> /usr/lib/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper sendmail configuration includes /etc/mail/majordomo.aliases, as follows: O AliasFile=/etc/aliases,/etc/mail/majordomo.aliases (/etc/mail/majordomo.aliases is actually soft-linked to the install directory) ... and that works, as evidenced by this command: $ newaliases /etc/aliases: 40 aliases, longest 29 bytes, 425 bytes total /etc/mail/majordomo.aliases: 7 aliases, longest 45 bytes, 223 bytes total Here's my majordomo.aliases file: $ cat /etc/mail/majordomo.aliases majordomo: "|/etc/smrsh/wrapper majordomo" owner-majordomo: inbound majordomo-owner: inbound test: :include /usr/lib/majordomo-1.94.5/lists/test owner-test: inbound test-request: "|/etc/smrsh/wrapper request-answer test" test-approval: inbound sendmail configuration also "trusts" user majordomo by merit of this entry: Tmajordomo ("T" in column 1) User inbound exists, and currently picks up my external mail. My installation directory looks like this: -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 5267 Jun 1 13:45 archive2.pl drwxr-xr-x 2 majordom majordom 4096 Jun 1 13:46 bin -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 2795 Jun 1 13:45 bounce-remind -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 51130 Jun 1 13:45 config_parse.pl -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 10671 Jun 1 13:45 config-test -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 14201 Jun 1 13:45 digest drwxrwx--- 2 majordom majordom 4096 Jun 1 16:04 lists -rw-rw-r-- 1 majordom majordom 0 Jun 1 14:39 Log -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 62511 Jun 1 13:45 majordomo -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom majordom 274 Jun 1 16:51 majordomo.aliases -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom majordom 10474 Jun 1 14:31 majordomo.cf -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 24381 Jun 1 13:45 majordomo.pl -rw-rw---- 1 majordom majordom 6 Jun 1 14:39 .majordomo_registration -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 137 Jun 1 13:45 majordomo_version.pl lrwxrwxrwx 1 majordom majordom 8 Jun 1 14:50 man -> /usr/man -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 3791 Jun 1 13:45 request-answer -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 29919 Jun 1 13:45 resend -rw-r--r-- 1 majordom majordom 10462 Jun 1 13:45 sample.cf -rwxr-xr-x 1 majordom majordom 8060 Jun 1 13:45 shlock.pl drwxr-xr-x 2 majordom majordom 4096 Jun 1 13:46 Tools -rwsr-xr-x 1 root majordom 16819 Jun 1 13:48 wrapper (This is all well and good. There is no majordom user; this is a limitation of ls -l) I have stopped and restarted sendmail a number of times, once after each change. However, when I do: echo lists|mail majordomo I receive the following in returned mail: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/etc/smrsh/wrapper majordomo" (reason: service unavailable) (expanded from: majordomo) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Message delivered to mailing list majordomo smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs 554 5.0.0 "|/etc/smrsh/wrapper majordomo"... Service unavailable I've read though the FAQ, followed the sendmail guidelines, done my best to make this not a problem. Where did I go wrong? -- Dennis Lovelady Fayetteville, GA mail: dennis@lovelady.com URL: http://www.lovelady.com ICQ: 5734860 -- "No matter what side of an argument you're on, you always find some people on your side that you wish were on the other side." - Jascha Heifetz From majordomo-workers-owner Fri Jun 1 20:10:49 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id TAA01095; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from euclid.cs.niu.edu (euclid.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.14]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F104D17E8B for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (rickert@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by euclid.cs.niu.edu (8.12.0.Beta10/8.12.0.Beta10) with ESMTP id f522vBjm024094; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:57:11 -0500 (CDT) To: "Dennis Lovelady" Cc: majordomo-workers@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Fw: majordomo/smrsh/"Service unavailable" problem References: <014a01c0eaee$0a899a40$0100a8c0@chewient> In-Reply-To: Message from "Dennis Lovelady" of "Fri, 01 Jun 2001 18:53:03 EDT." <014a01c0eaee$0a899a40$0100a8c0@chewient> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 21:57:11 -0500 Message-ID: <24091.991450631@euclid.cs.niu.edu> From: Neil W Rickert Sender: majordomo-workers-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk "Dennis Lovelady" wrote: > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > Message delivered to mailing list majordomo > smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs > 554 5.0.0 "|/etc/smrsh/wrapper majordomo"... Service unavailable See http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section3.html#3.34 -NWR From majordomo-workers-owner Fri Jun 1 21:54:32 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA01881; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from euclid.cs.niu.edu (euclid.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.14]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7507517E8B for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (rickert@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by euclid.cs.niu.edu (8.12.0.Beta10/8.12.0.Beta10) with ESMTP id f524rCjm024711; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:53:12 -0500 (CDT) To: "handspring" Cc: majordomo-workers@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Fw: majordomo/smrsh/"Service unavailable" problem References: <014a01c0eaee$0a899a40$0100a8c0@chewient> <24091.991450631@euclid.cs.niu.edu> <019001c0eb1a$761f3e50$0100a8c0@chewient> In-Reply-To: Message from "handspring" of "Sat, 02 Jun 2001 00:14:04 EDT." <019001c0eb1a$761f3e50$0100a8c0@chewient> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 23:53:12 -0500 Message-ID: <24708.991457592@euclid.cs.niu.edu> From: Neil W Rickert Sender: majordomo-workers-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk "handspring" wrote: >Yes, thank you, Neil: >This FAQ tells me to create a sumlink to wrapper in /etc/smrsh. But I >already have a link to /usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper in /etc/smrsh, and yet it >doesn't work. Check whether the symlink is correct. Check whether it is accessible as the sendmail default user. Check whether "/etc/smrsh" is the correct directory (do a 'strings' on the smrsh binary). The error message you are getting is a response to that particular problem, and to no other problem. -NWR From majordomo-workers-owner Sat Jun 2 07:47:24 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA09876; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 07:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1DC17E8B for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 07:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chewient ([65.80.48.42]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.01.01 201-252-104) with SMTP id <20010602143744.JCDD19887.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@chewient>; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:37:44 -0400 Message-ID: <01e101c0eb71$79efbbc0$0100a8c0@chewient> From: "Dennis Lovelady" To: "Neil W Rickert" Cc: References: <014a01c0eaee$0a899a40$0100a8c0@chewient> <24091.991450631@euclid.cs.niu.edu> <019001c0eb1a$761f3e50$0100a8c0@chewient> <24708.991457592@euclid.cs.niu.edu> Subject: Re: Fw: majordomo/smrsh/"Service unavailable" problem Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:36:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: majordomo-workers-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Thanks for hanging in there with me. I have a (sort of) working configuration now, but I don't think it's right. If you're only interested in my question, read only the last paragraph. If you want to see how I arrived at that question, please follow. Suggestions from Dan Liston and Neil Rickert were invaluable in helping me, and I greatly appreciate the assistance. I have verified that these things are correct: From: "Neil W Rickert" Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 12:53 AM > >This FAQ tells me to create a sumlink to wrapper in /etc/smrsh. > >But I already have a link to /usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper in > >/etc/smrsh, and yet it doesn't work. > > Check whether the symlink is correct. Check whether it is accessible > as the sendmail default user. Check whether "/etc/smrsh" is the correct > directory (do a 'strings' on the smrsh binary). OK. Here's how I verified all of that: leya:/root: grep smrsh /etc/sendmail.cf ##### $Id: smrsh.m4,v 8.14 1999/11/18 05:06:23 ca Exp $ ##### Mprog, P=/usr/sbin/smrsh, F=lsDFMoqeu9, S=EnvFromL/HdrFromL, R=EnvToL/H drToL, D=$z:/, A=smrsh -c $u I see from the above that /usr/sbin/smrsh will be the secure shell used. Now, let's see where it'll find its scripts: leya:/etc/smrsh: strings /usr/sbin/smrsh | grep '/' /lib/ld-linux.so.2 /etc/smrsh /bin:/usr/bin: /bin/sh Cannot exec /bin/sh: %m @(#)$Id: smrsh.c,v 8.31.4.6 2000/10/09 20:37:16 gshapiro Exp $ @(#)$Id: strl.c,v 8.5.14.2 2000/09/17 17:04:24 gshapiro Exp $ OK, so it looks like /etc/smrsh is the place to be. But we know it doesn't work for some reason. Let's switch to majordomo user and run a test to prove our link: leya:/etc/smrsh: su - majordomo Most seminars have a happy ending. Everyone's glad when they're over. We'll execute wrapper from /etc/smrsh, and pass it an invalid program name: leya:/etc/smrsh: ./wrapper -v wrapper: Trying to exec /usr/lib/majordomo-1.94.5/-v failed: No such file or directory Did you define PERL correctly in the Makefile? HOME is HOME=/usr/lib/majordomo-1.94.5, PATH is PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb, SHELL is SHELL=/bin/sh, MAJORDOMO_CF is MAJORDOMO_CF=/usr/lib/majordomo-1.94.5/majordomo.cf leya:/etc/smrsh: id uid=503(majordomo) gid=503(majordomo) groups=503(majordomo) Yep, looks like we got the right tool. Hmmm... What happens if we run "wrapper majordomo" manually? leya:/etc/smrsh: ./wrapper majordomo lists ^D mj_majordomo: ABORT Majordomo@lovelady.com: is not a valid return address. Well, that's a problem, but it's not THE problem. (I'll be facing this one next. Looks valid to me!) So, as root, I copied /usr/lib/majordomo*/wrapper to /etc/smrsh (rather than using a link) leya:/etc/smrsh: exit leya:/etc/smrsh: id uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root),1(bin),2(daemon),3(sys),4(adm),6(disk),10(wheel) leya:/etc/smrsh: mv wrapper wrapper-link leya:/etc/smrsh: cp /usr/lib/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper . leya:/etc/smrsh: echo lists | mail majordomo Lo and behold, this worked. It's not what I want, but it does work. So I've a working model, but it's not quite like it should be. Problem must be in the permissions of the majordomo directory or the wrapper itself. Here's what I have: leya:/etc/smrsh: cd /usr/lib leya:/usr/lib: ls -ld majordomo-1.94.5/ drwxr-x--- 5 majordom majordom 4096 Jun 2 10:08 majordomo-1.94.5/ leya:/usr/lib: cd majordomo-1.94.5/ leya:/usr/lib/majordomo-1.94.5: ls -l wrapper -rwsr-xr-x 1 root majordom 16819 Jun 1 13:48 wrapper And at last I see. (I can be slow sometimes.) DefaultUser=8:12 is set in the sendmail.cf file. This is mail:mail, who has no permissions to the majordomo directory. To verify that this was the problem, I chmod 755 the majordomo directory, recreated my link, and it works. What is the recommended change to allow user/group mail (but nobody else) to execute wrapper? Or do I need to change the default user, and what are the ramifications if I do? -- Dennis Lovelady Fayetteville, GA mail: dennis@lovelady.com URL: http://www.lovelady.com ICQ: 5734860 -- "Advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer but wish we didn't." -- Erica Jong From majordomo-workers-owner Sat Jun 2 08:17:24 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id HAA10011; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 07:56:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from euclid.cs.niu.edu (euclid.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.14]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F8817E8B for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 07:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (rickert@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by euclid.cs.niu.edu (8.12.0.Beta10/8.12.0.Beta10) with ESMTP id f52Et6jm026627; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:55:06 -0500 (CDT) To: "Dennis Lovelady" Cc: majordomo-workers@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Fw: majordomo/smrsh/"Service unavailable" problem References: <014a01c0eaee$0a899a40$0100a8c0@chewient> <24091.991450631@euclid.cs.niu.edu> <019001c0eb1a$761f3e50$0100a8c0@chewient> <24708.991457592@euclid.cs.niu.edu> <01e101c0eb71$79efbbc0$0100a8c0@chewient> In-Reply-To: Message from "Dennis Lovelady" of "Sat, 02 Jun 2001 10:36:57 EDT." <01e101c0eb71$79efbbc0$0100a8c0@chewient> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 09:55:06 -0500 Message-ID: <26624.991493706@euclid.cs.niu.edu> From: Neil W Rickert Sender: majordomo-workers-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk "Dennis Lovelady" wrote: >leya:/etc/smrsh: cp /usr/lib/majordomo-1.94.5/wrapper . >Lo and behold, this worked. It's not what I want, but it does work. So >I've a working model, but it's not quite like it should be. Problem must be >in the permissions of the majordomo directory or the wrapper itself. Here's >what I have: >leya:/etc/smrsh: cd /usr/lib >leya:/usr/lib: ls -ld majordomo-1.94.5/ > drwxr-x--- 5 majordom majordom 4096 Jun 2 10:08 majordomo-1.94.5/ Either give it the "o+x" permission, or put the majordomo directory in the group of your sendmail DefaultUser. I'm using 751 permissions. You probably also need your lists subdirectory to be accessible by the sendmail DefaultUser (group execute access will suffice). >leya:/usr/lib: cd majordomo-1.94.5/ >leya:/usr/lib/majordomo-1.94.5: ls -l wrapper > -rwsr-xr-x 1 root majordom 16819 Jun 1 13:48 wrapper >And at last I see. (I can be slow sometimes.) DefaultUser=8:12 is set in >the sendmail.cf file. This is mail:mail, who has no permissions to the >majordomo directory. To verify that this was the problem, I chmod 755 the >majordomo directory, recreated my link, and it works. What is the >recommended change to allow user/group mail (but nobody else) to execute >wrapper? Or do I need to change the default user, and what are the >ramifications if I do? You can make the majordomo directory 751. Put wrapper into group mail, and make it 510 or 710. Put your lists subdirectory in group mail, or else give it 751 permissions. If you don't trust "mail" as a group, create a new group and make that the group for the sendmail DefaultUser. -NWR From majordomo-workers-owner Tue Jun 5 21:40:20 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id VAA01313; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pat.uio.no (pat.uio.no [129.240.130.16]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70C717EB1 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from solva.ifi.uio.no ([129.240.64.20]) by pat.uio.no with smtp (Exim 2.12 #7) id 157V1L-0006Jf-00; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 06:34:15 +0200 Received: (from thomas@localhost) by solva.ifi.uio.no ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 06:34:15 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 06:34:14 +0200 From: Thomas Gramstad Reply-To: thomas@ifi.uio.no To: majordomo-workers@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Majordomo 2 questions Message-ID: Sender: majordomo-workers-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I'm writing an article comparing Majordomo and Mailman and I need a couple of quick answers about Majordomo 2: Does Mj 2 support the X-no-Archive header? Does Mj2 support/insert a List-ID: header? Does Mj 2 currently support LDAP? If the answer to these questions is no, are any of these features planned in the future? Is there anything new about a possible date for an official release of Mj 2.0? Thanks, Thomas Gramstad thomas@ifi.uio.no From majordomo-workers-owner Wed Jun 6 06:11:50 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id GAA09113; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 06:00:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.81]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C9517EAE for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 05:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ee-nt.climber.org ([24.1.69.110]) by femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010606125951.PDFD8623.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@ee-nt.climber.org>; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 05:59:51 -0700 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010606052920.00ad9020@pop.climber.org> X-Sender: eckert@pop.climber.org (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 05:30:03 -0700 To: thomas@ifi.uio.no From: SRE Subject: Re: Majordomo 2 questions Cc: majordomo-workers@GreatCircle.COM, mj2-dev@csf.colorado.edu In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: majordomo-workers-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk The better place to ask is on mj2-dev@csf.colorado.edu where the two current authors are active. At 09:34 PM 6/5/01, Thomas Gramstad wrote: >I'm writing an article comparing Majordomo and Mailman and I need >a couple of quick answers about Majordomo 2: > >Does Mj 2 support the X-no-Archive header? > >Does Mj2 support/insert a List-ID: header? > >Does Mj 2 currently support LDAP? > >If the answer to these questions is no, are any of these features >planned in the future? > >Is there anything new about a possible date for an official >release of Mj 2.0? > >Thanks, > >Thomas Gramstad >thomas@ifi.uio.no From majordomo-workers-owner Fri Jun 8 08:45:09 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id IAA12576; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 08:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from actwin.com (acme.actwin.com [140.239.226.140]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A13C17EB1 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 08:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brain.actwin.com (mar@h0080c82be901.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.22.147]) by actwin.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16587; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:37:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:38:11 -0400 From: Mark Rosenstein To: majordomo-workers@greatcircle.com Subject: seeking beta testers for a list-cleaning addition to majordomo 1.94 Message-ID: <20010608113811.O7484@brain.actwin.com> References: <20010607183453.F3767@brain.actwin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20010607183453.F3767@brain.actwin.com>; from mar@actwin.com on Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 18:34:53 -0400 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.5 Lines: 16 Sender: majordomo-workers-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk I have written an addition to majordomo which makes use of an address registry and cleanup service to update the addresses on majordomo lists. We are looking for just a few beta testers for this service. Ideally these testers would be familiar with installing and running majordomo, and have one or more large mailing lists. I won't describe the service further here so as not to turn this into an advertisement. If you are interested and want to learn more, see http://freshaddress.com/majordomo/mdhome.cfm As I will be out of the office for a few days, please post any followup questions to austin@freshaddress.com. I do plan on writing similar functionality for majordomo 2 as well, once I have it running reliably. Thanks, -Mark Rosenstein From majordomo-workers-owner Sat Jun 16 13:13:44 2001 Received: (majordom@localhost) by honor.greatcircle.com (8.8.5/Honor-Lists-980720-1) id NAA13129; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rina.torah.org (rina.torah.org [208.229.147.50]) by honor.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACC417EC0 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (brozen@localhost) by rina.torah.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA19744; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:09:46 -0400 Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:09:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Brock Rozen To: Mj2 Development Lists , Subject: Snapshot Message-ID: X-Backup: Disabled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: majordomo-workers-owner@GreatCircle.COM Precedence: bulk Hi, Have there been any snapshots done lately? Thanks! -- Brock Rozen brozen@teamgenesis.com