From majordomo-workers-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Sep 8 20:19:07 2003 Received: from ganymede.hub.org (u173n10.eastlink.ca [24.224.173.10]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1831C515B7 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 20:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B368634283; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 00:18:33 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0929341B6; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 00:18:33 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 00:18:33 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: majordomo-workers@GreatCircle.COM, mj2-dev@csf.colorado.edu Subject: Adding new domain ... Message-ID: <20030909001744.W57860@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200309/1 X-Sequence-Number: 21 The way I've been adding a new virtual domain to majordomo2 has been to reinstall, and state teh extra domain there ... but that doesn't quite sound like the easy way to do it ;) is there a better way? From majordomo-workers-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Sep 9 08:50:35 2003 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEE85186C for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 08:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from queernet.org (12-230-153-105.client.attbi.com[12.230.153.105](untrusted sender)) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003090915503201300b08qse>; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 15:50:32 +0000 Message-ID: <3F5DF656.8070602@queernet.org> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 08:48:38 -0700 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030818 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, fr-be, fr-ca, fr-fr, fr-lu, fr-mc, fr-ch MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marc G. Fournier" Cc: majordomo-workers@GreatCircle.COM, mj2-dev@csf.colorado.edu Subject: Re: Adding new domain ... References: <20030909001744.W57860@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20030909001744.W57860@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200309/2 X-Sequence-Number: 22 Marc G. Fournier wrote: >The way I've been adding a new virtual domain to majordomo2 has been to >reinstall, and state teh extra domain there ... but that doesn't quite >sound like the easy way to do it ;) > >is there a better way? > > Go to the source directory and "make domain". From majordomo-workers-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Sep 9 13:09:53 2003 Received: from ganymede.hub.org (u173n10.eastlink.ca [24.224.173.10]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825B8507B0 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 13:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DD091342A3; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 17:09:27 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0503428E; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 17:09:27 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 17:09:27 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: majordomo-workers@GreatCircle.COM, mj2-dev@csf.colorado.edu Subject: How to filter on Spamassassin headers with Majordomo2 ... Message-ID: <20030909170736.P57860@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200309/3 X-Sequence-Number: 23 Since I've seen a couple of questions on this over the past few days, here is what I have in place to filter based on SA headers for the PostgreSQL.Org mailing lists: configset DEFAULT taboo_headers < 6 post consult, reply=NONE $taboo_spamassassin post deny, reply=NONE $taboo_virus_subject ENDAAB Hopefully this helps some out there ... From majordomo-workers-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Sep 9 13:23:27 2003 Received: from rina.teamgenesis.com (rina.teamgenesis.com [63.208.156.10]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F8A50997 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 13:23:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (brozen@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rina.teamgenesis.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.4) with ESMTP id h89KNMoH004933; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 16:23:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 23:23:22 +0300 (IDT) From: Brock Rozen Reply-To: brozen@torah.org To: "Marc G. Fournier" Cc: majordomo-workers@greatcircle.com, mj2-dev@csf.colorado.edu Subject: Re: How to filter on Spamassassin headers with Majordomo2 ... In-Reply-To: <20030909170736.P57860@ganymede.hub.org> Message-ID: References: <20030909170736.P57860@ganymede.hub.org> X-Backup: Disabled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200309/4 X-Sequence-Number: 24 Hi, How do you deal with any other types of action that are NOT posts? Our only option was to go with block_headers, which generates a lot of traffic to the owners, but manages to block out lots of traffic that simply blocking "post"-only doesn't do. Besides that, it's already doing it's work wonderfully. Best, BR On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 at 17:09, Marc G. Fournier wrote about "How to filter on...": > > Since I've seen a couple of questions on this over the past few days, here > is what I have in place to filter based on SA headers for the > PostgreSQL.Org mailing lists: > > configset DEFAULT taboo_headers < /^X-Spam-Status: Yes/ 10,spamassassin > /^X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=([6-9]|\d\d+)/ 20,spamassassin > /^Subject: Thank you!/ 1,virus_subject > /^Subject: Re: Thank you!/ 1,virus_subject > /^Subject: Re: Wicked screensaver/ 1,virus_subject > /^Subject: Wicked screensaver/ 1,virus_subject > /^Subject: Re: Re: My details/ 1,virus_subject > /^Subject: Re: That movie/ 1,virus_subject > /^Subject: That movie/ 1,virus_subject > /^Subject: Re: Approved/ 1,virus_subject > /^Subject: Approved/ 1,virus_subject > /^Subject: Re: Details/ 1,virus_subject > /^Subject: Re: Your application/ 1,virus_subject > /^Subject: Your application/ 1,virus_subject > /^Subject: Re: Your details/ 1,virus_subject > /^Subject: Your details/ 1,virus_subject > /^Subject: Details/ 1,virus_subject > ENDAAB > > configset DEFAULT access_rules < post > deny, reason="The message is too big" > $body_length_exceeded > > post > deny, reply=NONE > $taboo_spamassassin > 6 > > post > consult, reply=NONE > $taboo_spamassassin > > post > deny, reply=NONE > $taboo_virus_subject > ENDAAB > > > Hopefully this helps some out there ... > -- Brock Rozen brozen@teamgenesis.com From majordomo-workers-owner@greatcircle.com Tue Sep 9 20:42:34 2003 Received: from ganymede.hub.org (u173n10.eastlink.ca [24.224.173.10]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B9C50972 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 20:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6875F33CD9; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 00:42:10 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6593033C34; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 00:42:10 -0300 (ADT) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 00:42:10 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Brock Rozen Cc: majordomo-workers@greatcircle.com, mj2-dev@csf.colorado.edu Subject: Re: How to filter on Spamassassin headers with Majordomo2 ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030910003939.J57860@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20030909170736.P57860@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200309/5 X-Sequence-Number: 25 Other actions like ... ? On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Brock Rozen wrote: > Hi, > > How do you deal with any other types of action that are NOT posts? > > Our only option was to go with block_headers, which generates a lot of > traffic to the owners, but manages to block out lots of traffic that > simply blocking "post"-only doesn't do. Besides that, it's already doing > it's work wonderfully. > > Best, > > BR > > On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 at 17:09, Marc G. Fournier wrote about "How to filter on...": > > > > > Since I've seen a couple of questions on this over the past few days, here > > is what I have in place to filter based on SA headers for the > > PostgreSQL.Org mailing lists: > > > > configset DEFAULT taboo_headers < > /^X-Spam-Status: Yes/ 10,spamassassin > > /^X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=([6-9]|\d\d+)/ 20,spamassassin > > /^Subject: Thank you!/ 1,virus_subject > > /^Subject: Re: Thank you!/ 1,virus_subject > > /^Subject: Re: Wicked screensaver/ 1,virus_subject > > /^Subject: Wicked screensaver/ 1,virus_subject > > /^Subject: Re: Re: My details/ 1,virus_subject > > /^Subject: Re: That movie/ 1,virus_subject > > /^Subject: That movie/ 1,virus_subject > > /^Subject: Re: Approved/ 1,virus_subject > > /^Subject: Approved/ 1,virus_subject > > /^Subject: Re: Details/ 1,virus_subject > > /^Subject: Re: Your application/ 1,virus_subject > > /^Subject: Your application/ 1,virus_subject > > /^Subject: Re: Your details/ 1,virus_subject > > /^Subject: Your details/ 1,virus_subject > > /^Subject: Details/ 1,virus_subject > > ENDAAB > > > > configset DEFAULT access_rules < > post > > deny, reason="The message is too big" > > $body_length_exceeded > > > > post > > deny, reply=NONE > > $taboo_spamassassin > 6 > > > > post > > consult, reply=NONE > > $taboo_spamassassin > > > > post > > deny, reply=NONE > > $taboo_virus_subject > > ENDAAB > > > > > > Hopefully this helps some out there ... > > > > -- > Brock Rozen brozen@teamgenesis.com > From majordomo-workers-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Sep 18 08:16:43 2003 Received: from rina.teamgenesis.com (rina.teamgenesis.com [63.208.156.10]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B94450863 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2003 08:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (brozen@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rina.teamgenesis.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.4) with ESMTP id h8IFGS2B013015; Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:16:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 18:16:28 +0300 (IDT) From: Brock Rozen Reply-To: brozen@torah.org To: "Marc G. Fournier" Cc: majordomo-workers@greatcircle.com, mj2-dev@csf.colorado.edu Subject: Re: How to filter on Spamassassin headers with Majordomo2 ... In-Reply-To: <20030915010711.O82880@ganymede.hub.org> Message-ID: References: <20030909170736.P57860@ganymede.hub.org> <20030910003939.J57860@ganymede.hub.org> <20030915010711.O82880@ganymede.hub.org> X-Backup: Disabled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200309/6 X-Sequence-Number: 26 We have tens of domains supported and hundreds of thousands of subscribers. We have noticed problems with all of the Majordomo actions/commands -- thus our need. Best, BR On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 at 01:08, Marc G. Fournier wrote about "Re: How to...": > > 'K, to date ... I haven't had a problem with, or noticed problems with, > those actions ... but I guess it could be an issue with larger lists, or > more public ones *shrug* > > > On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Brock Rozen wrote: > > > subscribe, unsubscribe, lists, archive, etc etc... > > > > BR > > > > On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 at 00:42, Marc G. Fournier wrote about "Re: How to...": > > > > > > > > Other actions like ... ? > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Brock Rozen wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > How do you deal with any other types of action that are NOT posts? > > > > > > > > Our only option was to go with block_headers, which generates a lot of > > > > traffic to the owners, but manages to block out lots of traffic that > > > > simply blocking "post"-only doesn't do. Besides that, it's already doing > > > > it's work wonderfully. > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > BR > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 at 17:09, Marc G. Fournier wrote about "How to filter on...": > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since I've seen a couple of questions on this over the past few days, here > > > > > is what I have in place to filter based on SA headers for the > > > > > PostgreSQL.Org mailing lists: > > > > > > > > > > configset DEFAULT taboo_headers < > > > > /^X-Spam-Status: Yes/ 10,spamassassin > > > > > /^X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=([6-9]|\d\d+)/ 20,spamassassin > > > > > /^Subject: Thank you!/ 1,virus_subject > > > > > /^Subject: Re: Thank you!/ 1,virus_subject > > > > > /^Subject: Re: Wicked screensaver/ 1,virus_subject > > > > > /^Subject: Wicked screensaver/ 1,virus_subject > > > > > /^Subject: Re: Re: My details/ 1,virus_subject > > > > > /^Subject: Re: That movie/ 1,virus_subject > > > > > /^Subject: That movie/ 1,virus_subject > > > > > /^Subject: Re: Approved/ 1,virus_subject > > > > > /^Subject: Approved/ 1,virus_subject > > > > > /^Subject: Re: Details/ 1,virus_subject > > > > > /^Subject: Re: Your application/ 1,virus_subject > > > > > /^Subject: Your application/ 1,virus_subject > > > > > /^Subject: Re: Your details/ 1,virus_subject > > > > > /^Subject: Your details/ 1,virus_subject > > > > > /^Subject: Details/ 1,virus_subject > > > > > ENDAAB > > > > > > > > > > configset DEFAULT access_rules < > > > > post > > > > > deny, reason="The message is too big" > > > > > $body_length_exceeded > > > > > > > > > > post > > > > > deny, reply=NONE > > > > > $taboo_spamassassin > 6 > > > > > > > > > > post > > > > > consult, reply=NONE > > > > > $taboo_spamassassin > > > > > > > > > > post > > > > > deny, reply=NONE > > > > > $taboo_virus_subject > > > > > ENDAAB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hopefully this helps some out there ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Brock Rozen brozen@teamgenesis.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Brock Rozen brozen@teamgenesis.com > > > -- Brock Rozen brozen@teamgenesis.com From majordomo-workers-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Sep 24 07:02:47 2003 Received: from ganymede.hub.org (u173n10.eastlink.ca [24.224.173.10]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CD9511AD for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3775F35C8C; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:03:08 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2603466A; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:03:08 -0300 (ADT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:03:08 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: majordomo-workers@GreatCircle.COM, mj2-dev@csf.colorado.edu Subject: auto-generated virtual users table(s) ... Message-ID: <20030924105830.I27456@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200309/7 X-Sequence-Number: 27 I've been using the feature in Mj2 that auto-generates the alias and virtual tables for postfix when you create a new list, but due to how I have postfix setup, I need to append @localhost to all of the entries in virtual for it to work before I can 'postmap' the file ... Is there some way that I can tell majordomo2 to do this when it adds the entries? The major headache is when I upgrade from CVS, and it regenerates the whole file ... Basically, I need to write out: # VUT entries for pgsql-announce at postgresql.org pgsql-announce@postgresql.org pgsql-announce-postgresql.org pgsql-announce-request@postgresql.org pgsql-announce-postgresql.org-request pgsql-announce-owner@postgresql.org pgsql-announce-postgresql.org-owner owner-pgsql-announce@postgresql.org owner-pgsql-announce-postgresql.org # End VUT entries for pgsql-announce at postgresql.org As: # VUT entries for pgsql-announce at postgresql.org pgsql-announce@postgresql.org pgsql-announce-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org pgsql-announce-request@postgresql.org pgsql-announce-postgresql.org-request@localhost.postgresql.org pgsql-announce-owner@postgresql.org pgsql-announce-postgresql.org-owner@localhost.postgresql.org owner-pgsql-announce@postgresql.org owner-pgsql-announce-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org # End VUT entries for pgsql-announce at postgresql.org From majordomo-workers-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Sep 24 07:12:55 2003 Received: from ganymede.hub.org (u173n10.eastlink.ca [24.224.173.10]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 261D350657 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1A66134304; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:13:24 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10861341BC; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:13:24 -0300 (ADT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:13:23 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: majordomo-workers@GreatCircle.COM, mj2-dev@csf.colorado.edu Subject: 'k, lack of delivery problem ... message disappears into ether ... Message-ID: <20030924110309.T27456@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200309/8 X-Sequence-Number: 28 Just setup a list that messages to it seem to get to the archives, but not to the subscribers ... checked through the *.debug files (deleted them all first) and there are no indications of any errors that I can find ... but nobody actually receives the message that has been put into the archive :( I just sent a message through with debug = 1000, and mj_resend.debug shows no errors that I can see, but it doesn't show it even attempting to send out ... other lists on the same majordomo2 work fine ... From majordomo-workers-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Sep 24 13:18:23 2003 Received: from rina.teamgenesis.com (rina.teamgenesis.com [63.208.156.10]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D13350CF0 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (brozen@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rina.teamgenesis.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.6) with ESMTP id h8OKI9uU017385; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:18:10 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 23:18:09 +0300 (IDT) From: Brock Rozen Reply-To: brozen@torah.org To: "Marc G. Fournier" Cc: majordomo-workers@GreatCircle.COM, mj2-dev@csf.colorado.edu Subject: Re: auto-generated virtual users table(s) ... In-Reply-To: <20030924105830.I27456@ganymede.hub.org> Message-ID: References: <20030924105830.I27456@ganymede.hub.org> X-Backup: Disabled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-801174884-648174834-1064434689=:12393" X-Archive-Number: 200309/9 X-Sequence-Number: 29 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---801174884-648174834-1064434689=:12393 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, We use the following crude script to take all of the Majordomo alias and vut files, and compile them into one file that sendmail uses. That way, we don't have to update the sendmail configuration when we add a new domain to Majordomo. We run this once an hour. Obviously, it can be made to do other things as well. In addition, the attached program apparently does what you need it to do -- so work that in with this, and you have your solution. --- #!/usr/bin/perl use File::Listing; &init; &delete_files; &parse_domains; # This routine will create the vut + alias files as well ©_files; &alivut; sub init { $mj2domains_dir = "/usr/local/mj2/lists"; # Where Mj2 stores the lists/domains $tmp_dir = "/etc/mail/mj2"; $sendmail_dir = "/etc/mail"; # Where sendmail stores its files $newaliases_exec = "/usr/sbin/newaliases"; # The location of the newaliases program $makemap_exec = "/usr/sbin/makemap";# The location of makemap $makemap_type = "btree"; $sendmail_vut = "virtusertable.mj"; # The location of the central vut file. # It will be created under $sendmail_dir $sendmail_aliases = "aliases.mj"; # The location of the central aliases file. # It will be created under $sendmail_dir ### you shouldn't need to change anything below this line $mj2files_dir = "$mj2domains_dir/ALIASES"; $alias_tmp = "$tmp_dir/mj-alias.new"; $vut_tmp = "$tmp_dir/mj-vut.new"; } sub parse_domains { for (parse_dir(`ls -l $mj2domains_dir`)) { ($domain, $type, $size, $mtime, $mode) = @$_; &sendmail_append unless ($domain eq "ALIASES" || $domain eq "LIB" || $domain eq "QUEUE" || $domain eq "SITE" || $type ne "d"); next; } } sub sendmail_append { $alias_exec = "cat $mj2files_dir/mj-alias-$domain >> $alias_tmp"; $vut_exec = "cat $mj2files_dir/mj-vut-$domain >> $vut_tmp"; system $alias_exec; system $vut_exec; } sub delete_files { unlink "$alias_tmp"; unlink "$vut_tmp"; } sub copy_files { $alias_cp = "cp $alias_tmp $sendmail_dir/$sendmail_aliases"; $vut_cp = "cp $vut_tmp $sendmail_dir/$sendmail_vut"; system $alias_cp; system $vut_cp; } sub alivut { $aliases_exec = "$newaliases_exec > /dev/null"; system $aliases_exec; $vut_exec = "$makemap_exec $makemap_type $sendmail_dir/$sendmail_vut.db < $sendmail_dir/$sendmail_vut"; system $vut_exec; } ---- Best, BR On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 at 11:03, Marc G. Fournier wrote about "auto-generated...": > > I've been using the feature in Mj2 that auto-generates the alias and > virtual tables for postfix when you create a new list, but due to how I > have postfix setup, I need to append @localhost to all of the entries in > virtual for it to work before I can 'postmap' the file ... > > Is there some way that I can tell majordomo2 to do this when it adds the > entries? The major headache is when I upgrade from CVS, and it > regenerates the whole file ... > > Basically, I need to write out: > > # VUT entries for pgsql-announce at postgresql.org > pgsql-announce@postgresql.org pgsql-announce-postgresql.org > pgsql-announce-request@postgresql.org pgsql-announce-postgresql.org-request > pgsql-announce-owner@postgresql.org pgsql-announce-postgresql.org-owner > owner-pgsql-announce@postgresql.org owner-pgsql-announce-postgresql.org > # End VUT entries for pgsql-announce at postgresql.org > > As: > > # VUT entries for pgsql-announce at postgresql.org > pgsql-announce@postgresql.org pgsql-announce-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org > pgsql-announce-request@postgresql.org pgsql-announce-postgresql.org-request@localhost.postgresql.org > pgsql-announce-owner@postgresql.org pgsql-announce-postgresql.org-owner@localhost.postgresql.org > owner-pgsql-announce@postgresql.org owner-pgsql-announce-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org > # End VUT entries for 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id A75F42A10116; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:08:31 -0700 Received: from mail.sonny.com (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:08:31 -0600 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8PMC4sV019148 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=OK); Thu, 25 Sep 2003 17:12:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3F736868.10609@sonny.org> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 17:12:56 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marc G. Fournier" Cc: majordomo-workers@greatcircle.com, mj2-dev@csf.colorado.edu Subject: Re: 'k, lack of delivery problem ... message disappears into ether References: <20030924110309.T27456@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20030924110309.T27456@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: mail.sonny.com X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200309/10 X-Sequence-Number: 30 I think you are subscribed to the wrong list. These questions should be going to the -users lists, not developers and workers. This is most likely a simple misconfiguration on your part. What OS are you running on? What MTA are you using? What version of majordomo? What does the alias for your list look like? Are you using "resend"? What about your -outgoing alias? Do the ownerships and permissions on your list files match what your MTA allows? Dan Liston Marc G. Fournier wrote: > Just setup a list that messages to it seem to get to the archives, but not > to the subscribers ... checked through the *.debug files (deleted them all > first) and there are no indications of any errors that I can find ... but > nobody actually receives the message that has been put into the archive :( > > I just sent a message through with debug = 1000, and mj_resend.debug shows > no errors that I can see, but it doesn't show it even attempting to send > out ... other lists on the same majordomo2 work fine ... > From majordomo-workers-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Sep 25 15:27:33 2003 Received: from consera1.corpnet.consera.com (dsl081-190-082.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.190.82]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02EFE51E27 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roger ([192.168.10.38]) by consera1.corpnet.consera.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:27:23 -0700 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" To: "'Daniel Liston'" , "'Marc G. Fournier'" Cc: , Subject: Re: 'k, lack of delivery problem ... message disappears into ether Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:27:23 -0700 Message-ID: <7CEFA9CA4D5BE74586551915EC9C9C335272B9@consera1.corpnet.consera.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <3F736868.10609@sonny.org> Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Sep 2003 22:27:23.0803 (UTC) FILETIME=[311FDEB0:01C383B4] X-Archive-Number: 200309/11 X-Sequence-Number: 31 > I think you are subscribed to the wrong list. These questions should > be going to the -users lists, not developers and workers. This is > most likely a simple misconfiguration on your part. > > What OS are you running on? > What MTA are you using? > What version of majordomo? > > What does the alias for your list look like? > Are you using "resend"? > What about your -outgoing alias? > Do the ownerships and permissions on your list files match what your > MTA allows? It's an Mj2 question -- so he asked on -workers and on mj2-dev, since it's not a current end user release... From majordomo-workers-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Sep 25 19:41:34 2003 Received: from scanmail2.cableone.net (scanmail2.cableone.net [24.116.0.122]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED00520F8 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail2.cableone.net ([10.116.0.122]) by scanmail2.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:31:58 -0700 Received: from scanmail2.cableone.net [24.116.0.122] by scanmail2.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A51D1371010C; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:31:57 -0700 Received: from mail.sonny.com (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:31:57 -0600 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8Q2ZYsV020907 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:35:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3F73A628.4090902@sonny.org> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:36:24 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-workers@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: 'k, lack of delivery problem ... message disappears into ether References: <7CEFA9CA4D5BE74586551915EC9C9C335272B9@consera1.corpnet.consera.com> In-Reply-To: <7CEFA9CA4D5BE74586551915EC9C9C335272B9@consera1.corpnet.consera.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: mail.sonny.com X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200309/12 X-Sequence-Number: 32 Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: >>I think you are subscribed to the wrong list. These questions should >>be going to the -users lists, not developers and workers. This is >>most likely a simple misconfiguration on your part. >> >>What OS are you running on? >>What MTA are you using? >>What version of majordomo? >> >>What does the alias for your list look like? >>Are you using "resend"? >>What about your -outgoing alias? >>Do the ownerships and permissions on your list files match what your >>MTA allows? > > > It's an Mj2 question -- so he asked on -workers and on mj2-dev, since it's > not a current end user release... My mistake then. "I" am the one subscribed to the wrong list. I thought -workers was for anyone doing "code" work on either version. I did not realize that majordomo-workers was a support list. I also thought (see what I get for doing my own thinking?) that -users was for anyone with questions or needing help with either version (not to mention majorcool). I am referring only to lists hosted at greatcircle.com, which has no developers (or -dev) but does still have a hand full of workers. :) In either case, does the fact that Marc is using MJ2 invalidate any of my questions to him? Dan Liston From majordomo-workers-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Sep 25 22:54:57 2003 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB78505B2 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from queernet.org (12-208-155-174.client.attbi.com[12.208.155.174]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003092605545501500amoshe> (Authid: qnetter); Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:54:56 +0000 Message-ID: <3F73D4B5.4020005@queernet.org> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:55:01 -0700 From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030916 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, fr-be, fr-ca, fr-fr, fr-lu, fr-mc, fr-ch MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-workers@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Daniel Liston -- what's up? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200309/13 X-Sequence-Number: 33 I just tried to reply to private mail from you about this afternoon's posts, and my reply caught this. What's the deal? A message (from ) was received at 26 Sep 2003 5:50:35 +0000. The following addresses had delivery problems: Permanent Failure: Other address status Delivery last attempted at Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:50:46 -0000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Reporting-MTA: dns; comcast.net Arrival-Date: 26 Sep 2003 5:50:35 +0000 Final-Recipient: rfc822; Action: failed Status: 5.1.0 MAIL FROM: 550 REPLY: 550_5.7.1_Access_denied Diagnostic-Code: smtp; Permanent Failure: Other address status Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:50:46 -0000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From majordomo-workers-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Sep 26 14:08:16 2003 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC86951C46 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:04:39 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A9E66C400BA; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:04:38 -0700 Received: from mail.sonny.com (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:04:38 -0600 Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8QL8DsV006163 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=OK); Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:08:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3F74AAF8.5040304@sonny.org> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:09:12 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Roger B.A. Klorese" Cc: majordomo-workers@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Daniel Liston -- what's up? References: <3F73D4B5.4020005@queernet.org> In-Reply-To: <3F73D4B5.4020005@queernet.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: mail.sonny.com X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: dliston@sonny.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25] X-Archive-Number: 200309/14 X-Sequence-Number: 34 I have both client.attbi.com and comcast.net set as reject in my sendmail access file. Sorry about the collateral damage. I will add you to the whitelist. I am so fed up with spam that I am taking quite draconian measures to prevent it. Dan Liston Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: > I just tried to reply to private mail from you about this afternoon's > posts, and my reply caught this. What's the deal? > > A message (from ) was received at 26 Sep 2003 > 5:50:35 +0000. > > The following addresses had delivery problems: > > > Permanent Failure: Other address status > Delivery last attempted at Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:50:46 -0000 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Reporting-MTA: dns; comcast.net > Arrival-Date: 26 Sep 2003 5:50:35 +0000 > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; > Action: failed > Status: 5.1.0 MAIL FROM: 550 REPLY: > 550_5.7.1_Access_denied > Diagnostic-Code: smtp; Permanent Failure: Other address status > Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:50:46 -0000 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From majordomo-workers-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Sep 29 07:52:12 2003 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5DF5121C for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 07:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ee-2k.climber.org (12-236-47-35.client.attbi.com[12.236.47.35]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003092914521001600sjvtqe> (Authid: s.eckert); Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:52:10 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030929055349.00affd78@mail.comcast.net> X-Sender: s.eckert@mail.comcast.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 05:57:21 -0700 To: Daniel Liston From: SRE Subject: Re: Daniel Liston -- what's up? Cc: "Roger B.A. Klorese" , majordomo-workers@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: <3F74AAF8.5040304@sonny.org> References: <3F73D4B5.4020005@queernet.org> <3F73D4B5.4020005@queernet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Archive-Number: 200309/15 X-Sequence-Number: 35 At 02:09 PM 9/26/2003, Daniel Liston wrote: >I have both client.attbi.com and comcast.net set as reject >in my sendmail access file. Sorry about the collateral >damage. I will add you to the whitelist. I am so fed up >with spam that I am taking quite draconian measures to >prevent it. So what you're saying is that the rest of us have to listen to requests that you respond (via an email list) because you are essentially blocking all people you haven't put in your whitelist? That's Draconian, all right! Does it deal with forged return addresses and people who send from a domain other than the one where they receive? (rhetorical question) A more reasonable way to manage whitelists is available: http://smarden.org/qconfirm/ Steve From majordomo-workers-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Sep 29 20:09:52 2003 Received: from mail.sonny.com (24-116-58-25.cpe.cableone.net [24.116.58.25]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5DE51336 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonny.org (dad.liston.nu [192.168.1.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sonny.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8U39KpE016868 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=OK); Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:09:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3F78F41D.3070105@sonny.org> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:10:21 -0500 From: Daniel Liston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SRE Cc: "Roger B.A. Klorese" , majordomo-workers@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Daniel Liston -- what's up? References: <3F73D4B5.4020005@queernet.org> <3F73D4B5.4020005@queernet.org> <5.2.1.1.0.20030929055349.00affd78@mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030929055349.00affd78@mail.comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200309/16 X-Sequence-Number: 36 SRE wrote: > At 02:09 PM 9/26/2003, Daniel Liston wrote: > >>I have both client.attbi.com and comcast.net set as reject >>in my sendmail access file. Sorry about the collateral >>damage. I will add you to the whitelist. I am so fed up >>with spam that I am taking quite draconian measures to >>prevent it. > > > So what you're saying is that the rest of us have to listen to > requests that you respond (via an email list) because you are > essentially blocking all people you haven't put in your whitelist? > > That's Draconian, all right! Does it deal with forged return > addresses and people who send from a domain other than the > one where they receive? (rhetorical question) > > A more reasonable way to manage whitelists is available: > http://smarden.org/qconfirm/ > > Steve I am in the same boat now. My provider just started blocking outgoing port 25, so I have to send my outgoing mail through their servers. I am happy to whitelist almost any old majordomo user. ;) I did take a look at qconfirm. Unfortunately, I don't run qmail. I have trouble following the philosophy, as compared to sendmail. Old dogs and new tricks... Dan Liston