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Subject: Re: Coordination of Majordomo 2.0 efforts
From: Brent @ GreatCircle . COM (Brent Chapman)
Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 11:16:53 -0800
To: mtoivane @ cc . joensuu . fi, rsnyder @ vf . mmc . com (Bob Snyder)
Cc: majordomo-workers @ GreatCircle . COM

At 10:00 PM 5/4/95, Marko Toivanen wrote:
>Responding to a previous article by Bob Snyder:
>* I've seen some people with automatic code, but I suspect most list managers
>* NOMAIL nee unsubscribe people manually.  A bounce reminder comes with the
>* majordomo code that will send out a reminder to a bounces mailing list,
>which
>* a list member can be moved to when he/she starts bouncing.
>
>I would be great if there were a listowner settable script that would
>automatically move people who *stop* bouncing from the bounces list to the
>list(s) they were on, preferably telling them when they were moved to the
>bounces list - all this information is available on the bounces list file,
>isn't it? And then again, a list specific listowner settable script to
>automatically move people from a list after a certain amount of bounces -
>the owner-bounces could feed the former and owner-list the latter script.
>What does this sound like?

One characteristic of the "bounces list" setup common with Majordomo is
that an address will only be in there for the _first_ list they were
bounced from.  This is because Majordomo suppresses as duplicates any
further bounce subscriptions for that address.  If they were on multiple
lists at your site, and were bounced from all of them, the auto-resubscribe
mentioned above would only resubscribe them to the first list.

Also, determining when someone has stopped bouncing is not the same as
determining when they're able to receive mail again.  With unreliable mail
systems, the bounces themselves often get lost; not getting a bounce or two
that you expect shouldn't be taken as an indication the address is working
again, unless you hear from the addressee and they verify it.  That's why
the current "bounce" mechanism requires them to resubscribe themselves (as
a positive acknowledgement that their address is working again).

It ain't pretty, but it's pretty simple, and works passably well.

-Brent

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