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Subject: Re: FYI
From: Gail Winfred <gail @ score . com>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 16:53:55 -0800 (PST)
To: Sean Kamath <kamath @ pogo . WV . TEK . COM>
Cc: majordomo-workers @ greatcircle . COM
In-reply-to: <9511272347.AA10062@catenary.WV.TEK.COM>

On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Sean Kamath wrote:

> 
> [In a message on Sun, 26 Nov 1995 14:46:09 PST,
> 	"George Herbert" wrote:]
> >
> >This off the net (news.admin.net-abuse.misc); sounds like a feature which
> >would be very very useful to add to Majordomo.
> >....
> >4.  The sender receives this letter, and confirms the request by mailing
> >the new email with the token random number back to the listserver.  The
> >listserver looks for the token random number in the message body, and if
> >present, processes the request(s), then wipes the request entry from the
> >request file.
> >
> >
> >This strikes me as a sensible, simple solution that is fairly robust and
> >difficult to defeat.  I wonder why this system has not been implemented
> >on listservers, since mailbombing is a routine occurance which consumes
> >a lot of time, both of the victim's and of the system admin.
> 
> So what your suggesting is, for every list I wish to subscribe to, I
> have to ask twice.
> 
> If only there were a better key distribution system in place for PGP
> keys.  Then I could attach a digital signature to my request, and be
> done with it.  Perhaps it's not such a stupid idea, however, to use
> digital signature.  If each majordomo host allows one to "register" a
> key (perhaps via some archane syntax, or like the above, with a
> verification mail:  Imagine.  I say "here is my public key", majordomo
> reponds with "sign this and mail it back".  You sign it, and mail it
> back.  What you send back is a verification tag, and if it passes
> signature, it assumes the first person it heard from, and the second, is
> the same.).  Then all lists that host controls can use your signatures.
> 
> I promise, I'll impliment it just a SOON as I possibly CAN :-)
> 
> My $0.02 anyway.
I subscribe to a list that does a subscription check.  When you subscribe 
it returns an acknowledgement letter and asks that the subscriber to 
return a confirmation email within 48 hours and no mail is sent until the 
subscriber does this.  If a confirmation is not received in the specified 
time the subscription is cancelled and the subscriber has to resubscribe 
if he/she is valid.  It is either the Chechnya or OMRI list.  I'm not 
sure as how they does this but I believe both of these lists are in other 
countries than the US.

> 
> Sean
> 
> Sean Kamath
> kamath@pogo.wv.tek.com
> CPID Engineering System Administration
> (503) 685-3399 voice
> (503) 685-3118 fax
> Tektronix, Inc.
> MS 61-901
> Wilsonville, OR 97070-1000
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
> Version: 2.6.2
> 
> mQBtAy7KiLcAAAEDAKtF+74IYaZGqnJcrlqJlqDcpn2NSujb/JDZwQ5XUfwjBO44
> a4TtBC2CB0GYg1cPdarTBkWhjorV0dNmbbDee3dQfVCjEtrTMPQ6l0S1eSOH268I
> 4QFYT2UBD0ggzActtQAFEbQkU2VhbiBLYW1hdGggPGthbWF0aEBwb2dvLnd2LnRl
> ay5jb20+
> =BWUF
> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
> 
> Corporate policy states that I must state that I take responsibility
> for my own mail and news postings that are not business related.  No Duh.
> 

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