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Subject: Re: wish list items
From: "Loren Miller" <loren @ wharton . upenn . edu>
Organization: Wharton Marketing Department
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 14:15:47 EST
To: david_wolfe @ risc . sps . mot . com
Cc: majordomo-workers @ greatcircle . com
Reply-to: loren @ wharton . upenn . edu

Dave Wolfe opines:
> True perhaps, but when he has acquired the skill to master the task,
> will he not be enriched beyond any procmail recipe I could give him? My
> intent was to suggest alternatives so that he could solve his problem
> himself instead of relying on others. It's the difference between giving
> someone an apple and planting an apple tree for them.

Actually, it's the difference between a farmer selling a bushel of
apples to visitors and telling them to grow their own orchard. Would
not they be more enriched after having grown an orchard and learned
all there is to know about apples? Yes, if you think that apples are
the end-all and be-all of riches. Otherwise, no. Personally, despite
presently being a postmaster and sysadmin, I don't get off on
learning arcane utilities like procmail, sendmail may its name be
cursed, or m4 or what have you. perl is another story entirely. 

I also believe that applications should deal with problems they
cause, and with OS problems which they cause to rise to the top.
Since all the SMTP mailers out there suck at sending informative
error messages, it sure would be useful if majordomo, which is
supposed to be a utility for mailing list management after all, would
match those well-nigh-useless messages from all known mailers to the
recommended actions in case of various bounces and delays, and then
perform them automatically. Of course this conflicts with majordomo's
minimalist approach. But it seems to me with the current spate of
creeping-featurism in majordomo that the minimalist approach is
giving way already. Why not acknowledge it?

Be that as it may, I appreciated the pointer to procmail. However,
this further comment was condescending and I didn't appreciate it.


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