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Subject: Re: Majordomo mails itself
From: Brock Rozen <brozen @ webdreams . com>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 04:09:28 -0500 (EST)
To: Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs @ hpc . uh . edu>
Cc: majordomo-workers @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: <ufavibhdvjh.fsf@sina.hpc.uh.edu>

On 7 Nov 1996, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:

> BR> Agreed, it is a tough problem. Could you think of a way to do it if we
> BR> had a daemon?
> 
> Oh, sure.  In-core access is generally quick if the data structure is small
> enough.  (This wouldn't be huge, just a single hash.)  The problem is that
> under the current run-once-for-each-message setup, you have to read in the
> state and write it back out for each invocation, which implies another
> painful layer of locking and a slew of other time consuming things.

But if we're running a daemon, we're already reducing the load -- thus
being able to partially justify an increase in other areas.

> BR> If a daemon is in store for 2.0,
> 
> 2.0?  Try x.y, where if x==2, y!=0.  Most likely, x==3 or so.

Then let's not even consider this now...

> BR> Majordomo has definetly come to the point where it is being heavily
> BR> used and is facing problems and situations it never had to contend
> BR> with. The big leagues are here...
> 
> I think the big leagues have been here for over a year, when the major
> services started offering Majordomo lists to their customers.
> 
> I really wish that some enterprising person who's not me would go through
> the feature lists of other MLMs and figure out what we could be doing
> better.  Don't read the code, just the feature lists, and talk to people
> who use those MLMs to see how well things work.  I really want a handle on

Can you list a few? I'd be happy to take a look at them, but I can't
really think of any except Smartlist and Listproc.

>Smartlist's automatic bounce handling, which I think is Big Feature Numero
> Uno (TM), but that's my opinion.  Smartlist does it all with something like
> thirty lines of code, too, but most of it is a really ugly big regexp.

Smartlist runs off of procmail. I'm at the intermediate procmail level and
would be happy to examine the Smartlist code if you sent it to me (no
guarantees on what I would get out of it though).

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