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Subject: Re: List owner vs. moderator password?
From: Bill Houle <Bill . Houle @ SanDiegoCA . NCR . COM>
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 17:59:51 -0800
To: Ernest Mueller <ernestm @ towery . com>, majordomo-users @ GreatCircle . COM
Cc: majordomo-workers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <347C4E5B.1892A2E2@towery.com>
References: <3.0.2.32.19971125165447.009b8200@www.sandiegoca.ncr.com>

At 10:29 AM 11/26/97 -0600, Ernest Mueller wrote:
>Bill Houle wrote:
>> 
>> approve_passwd is for the moderator to approve postings.
>> admin_passwd is for the list owner (including subscriber approvals).
>> 
>> Ignore the list.passwd file -- it is a holdover from prior versions kept
>> for migration purposes only.
>> 
>> There is no way to allow someone to approve subscribers without revealing
>> the passwd for general list configuration. To do so would require a code
>> change. Resend is the only tool that uses "approve_passwd".
>
>OK, I can accept that - but for some reason majordomo is sending
subscribes to
>listname-approval for approval rather than listname-owner.  If the moderator
>(usually at listname-approval) can't do this and the owner at listname-owner
>can, is there any way to get majordomo to send subscribe requests to
>listname-owner, who should be the right person to handle them?

list-approval is an alias for list-owner. You are treating list-approval as
the "moderator". That function is identified in the config file with the
"moderator" keyword rather than via some alias. Lacking a "moderator"
value, it defaults to 'sender'. If the 'sender' keyword is not defined, it
all boils down to list-request.

So...Zubscribe requests (and confirmations) are sent to the owner address
(-approval as coded), while posting requests that are trapped by resend are
"bounced" to the moderator address. Thus the "owner" needs to know the
admin_passwd and the "moderator" needs to know the approve_passwd.

You say the 'moderator' is "usually at listname-approval". At first I
wondered why you made that claim. But I see in the NEWLIST docs that is
exactly what is advised. I think this needs to be corrected. The -approval
address is used for errors and admin requests, but *not* moderator requests
as it indicates.

Mailer errors to -owner.
Admin requests to -approval.
Resend requests to 'moderator' (or 'sender' (or -request)).

If you change your aliases (-approval => -owner) and set the 'moderator',
you will get the behavior you are looking for.


--bill


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