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Subject: Re: Am I just being left out?
From: Tom <maciejewski @ mindless . com>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:19:42 -0400
To: "majordomo-workers @ GreatCircle . COM" <majordomo-workers @ GreatCircle . COM>
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Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:

> >>>>> "RSW" == Randall S Winchester <rsw@Glue.umd.edu> writes:
>
> RSW> Well we (umd.edu) have been silent waiting for your return. Mj2 is
> RSW> still your baby, and I do not know if anyone else is involved in the
> RSW> current development.
>
> I don't think there is, and this bothers me to some degree.  There are many
> things that I'm not very good at and if it comes down to just me doing all
> of the work the end product is going to be deficient in those areas.
>
> RSW> What we are trying to do may be of interest to the list in general.
>
> It should be of very much interest.  Frankly, that someone is willing to
> make use of the software is enough to keep me hacking and I'm perfectly
> willing to concentrate on the wishes of early adopters.
>
> RSW> Mj2 is pretty cool in its ability to create the list on the fly. We
> RSW> currently have a Sun Ultra 1 dedicated to this service.
>
> Woo.  That's way more than what I have it running with.  Of course, the
> fact that I run it on such pitiful hardware will go a good ways towards
> making sure that the performance of the end result is reasonable.
>
> RSW> We expect at least 1000 lists. Jason has suggested turning off the few
> RSW> commands that need to peruse all the lists for performance reasons.
>
> Once I can profile things on a large enough installation, I can begin to
> optimize things a bit.  The most time-consuming command, period, is
> 'lists'.  If run in a backwards-compatible manner, it opens all of the list
> configs (fortunately it doesn't have to parse them, as that's already
> optimized away) and checks membership for every list.  Ouch.  But for
> special purposes, this can be optimized and indeed I can probably get rid
> of the config file loads.  I can also get rid of the need to scan the lists
> directory on startup if I can trust that a stat of the list directory is
> enough to tell me if any directories within it have come or gone.
>
> RSW> The sendmail aliases are generated at list creation time.
>
> I'd like to see your code for this; the mechanism is there to have Mj2
> maintain the aliases file itself but currently it only suggests the
> aliases.
>
> RSW> The database/web people are strating to test against the mj2 server
> RSW> now, so our "noise" level should increase.
>
> OK.  I'm pretty much ready for it.  I assume your operating deadline is the
> end of August?  It looks like it's going to be a fun month.
>
> RSW> A comment about mj2: "This is not your fathers majordomo server."
>
> That has given me pause many times.  It's way different, but if you don't
> look too hard it can look just like 1.94.  But just about everything new
> that Mj2 does has been called for repeatedly in majordomo-users.  It didn't
> take much coding to figure out that it would just be too painful to bolt
> all of the extra things I wanted onto 1.9x.
>
> BTW, the posts seem to be trickling in from majordomo-workers now; it looks
> like about five hours of delay which is better than nothing.
>
>  - J<



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