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Subject: Re: Another Suggestion
From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" <rogerk @ QueerNet . ORG>
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 10:04:14 -0800 (PST)
To: Brock Rozen <brozen @ torah . org>
Cc: Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs @ hpc . uh . edu>, majordomo-workers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9901101048580.14806-100000@rina.torah.org>

On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Brock Rozen wrote:
> And that denial of logins translates into more work. Allow them limited
> shell logins and you remove work off your back. Opening it up to
> interactive systems might be more of a security hole than allowing those
> who already run part of your system a little more access to it.

Most of them wouldn't know what to do with a shell if it bit them on the
ass.  Training them to use editors and host-based mailers is a pretty big
waste of time.  

Additionally, the security issues we have ever had in one of the domains I
manage were caused by passwords for interactive shell accounts being
sniffed.  No shells, no logins.

> Delegate your work to someone who does have shell login. A sysadmin can't
> keep everybody else from logging in and then complain when the workload
> gets too high. There's always compromises...

Other sysadmins are one thing; list owners being sysadmins is another.

> and as I said, auto-recompilation of sendmail related files should remain
> with sendmail, not some other program.

I'm not certain I consider them "sendmail related files" -- they're just
db's.

In fact, I'd love to see the addition of a new database type called the
directory, where filenames would act as keys (as smail uses); I've
proposed this to Eric.  It should scale well to medium-sized directories
(a few thousand aliases) on ufs and many thousands on file system types
like vxfs and xfs that have more efficient directory structures, and would
require no recompliation. 
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