Hi there,
This is my third attempt to send this to the list. Perhaps there is a size
limit to messages, so I have stripped the two outputs I included at the end
of the message and will send them separately.
Craig
>Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 02:12:05 -0700
>To: majordomo-workers@greatcircle.com
>From: Craig Hartnett <subs@niner.net>
>Subject: Re: Fwd: Mj2 Installation
>
>Hi Dave,
>
>Sorry to take so long to respond. By the way, the snapshot I am working
>with is the August 24th one from ftp://ftp.hub.org/pub/Majordomo2/ .
>
>
>At 00:08:24 03:58 pm -0500, Dave Wolfe wrote:
>>[ Craig Hartnett writes: ]
>> >
>> > [...] I obviously don't have root access on the physical machine, but
>> > should have some sort of root access on the virtual server.
>>
>>I don't know what that means. Either you have write privileges where
>>you're installing modules or you don't.
>
>True. As it turns out, the company that hosts my virtual server (VServers)
>says:
>
>"For some things, you do have the access to install modules, depending on
>what it's demands are. As a whole, I would say that the permissions you
>are currently granted would not be enough to install this. As for
>installing this for you, we cannot do that due to the shared nature of the
>system. Installing programs, modules, etc may lead to security issues as
>well as undesired operation on other VServers."
>
>So it would seem that as a virtual server user I am SOL. I'm going to
>pursue it a bit more though from a technical standpoint, as well as from a
>sales standpoint. While Mj2 is technically still in alpha, I think that if
>VServers wants to remain the virtual hosting leader they claim they are,
>they should be looking to the future and providing support for "bleeding
>edge" technology such as Mj2. My options now appear to be to go back to
>version 1, or use Mailman (which I have been looking at). However, since I
>don't have permission to install PERL modules, I'm wondering if I'll be
>able to install Python (which Mailman requires).
>
>
>> > The CPAN installation routine seemed to work fine, but stopped when it
>> > couldn't find a file.
>>
>>Don't keep us in suspense any longer, which file couldn't it find? I
>>suspect what's happening is that the module you're trying to install has
>>a dependency on another module that isn't installed.
>
>Perhaps. I didn't want to burden this list with PERL / CPAN issues, but
>I'll include the output I saved at the end of this message.
>
>
>> > It didn't refuse to run because of insufficient access privileges, as
>> > far as I can tell.
>>
>>I would expect CPAN to fail in the module install phase if you weren't
>>running it as root. Check the logs very carefully for indications of
>>failure, it spews out a lot of messages and it's easy to miss.
>
>I'm only familiar with the Web and FTP logs. Is this a different log?
>Where might I be able to find it?
>
>
>>`perl5 -V:installsitelib' will tell you the default installation
>>directory. `ls -ld that_directory' (substituting appropriately) will
>>tell you the permissions and owner of that directory. Or are you using
>>the PREFIX= option to install locally? If you'll give us some details
>>it might make it possible for someone on the list to help you.
>
>niner: {14} % perl5 -V:installsitelib
>installsitelib='/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005';
>niner: {15} % cd ~/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005
>niner: {16} % pwd
>/usr/home/niner/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005
>niner: {17} % ls -ld
>drwxr-xr-x 18 niner vuser 512 Nov 5 1999 .
>
>And, as promised, here's some output for you. First is the output from the
>attempt to install Mj2:
Sent in next message.
Craig Hartnett
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