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Subject: Magic and Oracles (was: Re: CLI transactions)
From: Tim Nelson <architect @ webalive . biz>
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:37:28 +1000 (EST)
To: Daniel Hagerty <hag @ linnaean . org>
Cc: j . schoenwaelder @ iu-bremen . de,Network Automation List <network-automation @ greatcircle . com>
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Daniel Hagerty wrote:

> > I thought this list was about building network wide configuration
> > management systems today rather than inventing a new key technology
> > that solves "magic" to implement "oracles" tomorrow.
>
>    You say tomato.  I say tomato.  Same denoted things, different
> senses.
>
>    You object to the terms "magic" and "oracle".  Fine.  "magic" is
> strucken from the vocabulary as a nonce, and "oracle" can be replaced
> by "function of specified range and domain", although you should note
> that the term "oracle" is often used in subset reasoning like this.

 	Just so we're talking about the same thing, I think Daniel is 
saying:
Magic: Unwritten functionality
Oracle: Authoritative source

 	Let me know if I'm wrong.

 	The thing that makes it hard to get at what he's saying is that 
he's mixing the language of mathematics and mysticism :).  I don't always 
understand him either (due to lack of time :) ) but the bits I understand 
seem right.

 	Just another question; I love the content of this list, but I'm 
not so keen on sorting through 30 messages with the subject "CLI" or 
"available network automation tools".  If others agree, it might be nice 
if we changed the subject line when the subject changes.

 	:)

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